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Edited by gcw0068:
4/18/2015 9:39:29 PM
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SUGGESTIONS: TLW- not necessarily nerfs either
Allow me to introduce the best auto rifle in the game- it kills in 2 shots!!!
Anyhow; Lots of people want this nerfed. Lots of people have been using it today. Lots of people say tlw takes skill. It doesn't. At least not when you use perfect balance on it.
Lots of people whine about how fast it kills- I'm not really one of those. Because I came up with a better solution than a flat old ttk nerf.
Keep in mind that a glitch fix isn't a nerf... You'll see later
And I'm not saying tlw NEEDS a nerf- only that with tlw killtimes are pretty much COD. Which sucks. But idk about nerfing the ttk because I have a better solution.
Step one; have xur sell it (insert troll face)
Step two; swap perfect balance for quickdraw ( or something else I guess- qd gives it that shootouts feel). Possibly give a slight stability increase.
Alternate: bring the mag down to six or seven.
Here's the most important thing: FIX THE GLITCH! The one where tlw deals more damage than it should when ads, resulting in 2 shot ads kills. Turning this into a 2 SHOT AUTO RIFLE.
EDIT: I'm going to assume people who vote for "don't even fix", a: don't know the incredibly unfair glitch, or b. Need to use it as a cheap crutch.
Have a nice day every1!
That last one at least is fair, right?
If anyone brings up thorn, I think it's better with the recent nerf, maybe take it's mag down by one. But that's all.
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4 RepliesYou do realize that's not a glitch right? On the last perk it clearly states "Bonus damage and Stability. Increased precision damage and stability when firing from the hip" so you complaining about its glitch is wrong. This weapon does not need a nerf or change its fine as is. Shit it takes me an entire clip to kill someone. So before you go and bash and blame the weapon, realize that it's probably the player and not the gun. I apologize if you were destroyed from someone using the last word but don't blame the gun. I played against someone using the thorn and they kept killing me with two shots and then I realized it was JmpDoubleX an amazing pvp player who is very skilled. That had never happened to me before so I can understand why people become upset when the get killed with two simple shots. But it's not the gun. It's the players skill.
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1 ReplyLast Word is a BEAST The Last Word in the right hands is unbeatable one on one and often on par with some heavy machine guns. THE FIX The fix I suggest is to only allow the Last Word to fire at the faster full auto rate of fire when aiming from the hip. When aiming down the sights the rate of fire slows down to the the same rate as other hand cannons in its class. This would allow the Last Word to still dominate in skilled hands in close to close/mid range, but limit the options for its destructive unbeatable power.
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2 RepliesPlease don't nerf the gun. Why is everyone in this game a -blam!-ing baby. I keep getting beat up by a guy with an intentionally good gun. Make it on equal terms with my shitty green weapon. It's not fair that someone earned their last word and are using it to beat me. Shut up. Please shut up. Drink bleach slit your wrist and jump off a cliff with a noose around your neck.
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The Last Word needs to be nerfed. I understand hand cannons having a faster kill time because they are trickier to use. However, The Last Word is not trickier to use, because of its insanely fast fire rate combined with a high stability making its faster kill time too easy to achieve.
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reducing the ammo on a weapon that isn't even effective at normal hand cannon ranges is insane. You have to get much closer, to be effective, and all of the perks are stacked for hipfire.... So.. no ammo reduction is out of the question, and brings it way out of line in comparison to other weapons with similar stats. How about... use something that out ranges it, and stop crying for nerfs
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The range needs to be lowered to compensate for the rate of fire and impact. The glitched ADS needs to be fixed, because getting 2 shot at that rate of fire is too ridiculously fast. Other than that I don't have much of a problem with it because I try not to get close to hand cannons.
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1 ReplyIt's good as is, only 8 in the chamber, I get killed more with this gun because I run out of bullets, 2 vs 1 TLW will lose, so it's nothing to complain about, it's not OP nor is it a gun for noobs like Thorn!
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The sad part is Suros used to police the HC crowd. Without a weapon to police all these awesome handcannons we get nerf requests. And i'm not saying something reasonable like what you suggested but flat out nerfs. I would say fix the glitch but you know how bungie is with balancing lol. If they took away perfect balance and put in a small range boost and speed reload that would keep skrubs from abusing it. My two cents.
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I think a bit lower impact should make up for the insane rate of fire
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2 RepliesJust nerf the range
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2 RepliesAbout 1/3 kills I get bonus damage while ads, it's a very frequently occurring glitch
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4 RepliesEdited by Ezra Fell: 4/18/2015 9:16:45 PMWhenever I crit people with it with ADS it does 73 damage, and I have to land three successful headshots to kill in the least amount of time. It literally never gives me anything more than that. I don't know. It's the Last Word this week. It was Thorn last week, and it'll be Hawkmoon next week. Oh, and mute me if you like just as you have muted pretty much everyone else who disagrees with you. I don't care. Also, I think it's kind of narcissistic to put your own name as a hashtag.
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Take off perfect balance Bungie!!! I used TLW and I destroyed in the crucible with max stability. Perfect balance is a joke on it. Give it another perk in there
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No fanfire ads. It looks absolutely stupid to see slapping the top of the gun while ads. It doesn't look cool, it looks stupid
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1 ReplyIf the glitch were fixed then I think it'd be fine. I have both 2-shot enemies while ADS and been 2-shot from a distance that is definitely not within hip-fire range.
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1 ReplyCan you explain the "glitch"
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3 Repliesever exotic gun is unique, and counter each other in ways
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1 ReplyFix the glitch for sure! I'm too scared to ask em to nerf it though, afraid it'll be pushed into the realm of useless exotics.
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Edited by gcw0068: 4/19/2015 2:25:43 AM
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9 Replies2 shot hip fire is not a glitch, it's a perk. You're stupid. Go kill yourself. Dumbass. Jump off a bridge and I hope your family is -blam!-
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Please nerf the rate of fire maybe? Crucible has got me infuriated since yesterday with everyone running around with the lowest TTK gun in the game
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8 RepliesI might be in the minority here, but when i get killed quick by TLW, i automatically assume that i had 3 other enemies shooting me also. Granted ive crit ppl with it for 111 dam?? But when that happens im always confident i was going to win 1v1 anyways..... The problem isnt even the weapons to me. Bungie made a very unbalanced game. They wanted to give players sweet weapons that were OP,(like WoW, Borderlands, diablo) but then wanted ppl to be ok with getting killed by them in pvp..... Other games have the same problems, the only diff is that those games figured out a way to fix them. BUNGIE has no idea how to. They are so afraid of fixing it, and it feeling like Halo, or CoD that they would rather "pussyfoot around".
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im just proving my point, incase you didnt know tlw is the yin to thorn a powerful gun also
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1 Replyyou idiotic pvp player dont know skill even if it hits you on with the 1st gun
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1 Replytlw fast killer, thorn is a pain, hawk moon a very lucky killer
