This is a list i have compiled with some help from fellow guardians of Exotic look-a-likes for when you want to hold two exotics but can't. Of course most of there special perks won't be the same but similar stats, burns, and other perks make these legendaries very close to some exotics. ALSO i avoided putting in too many chance roll weapons and stuck more to raid, ib, or perks to look out for. Don't forget to favorite so you can return later, and comment with any others i may have missed.
[u][b]PRIMARIES: [/b][/u]
[u]AUTO RIFLES:[/u]
1)Suros Regime - Abyss defiant (pve + pvp), Galahad-E w/ focused fire (pvp only)
-AD has focused fire and perfect balance leading to a very manigable low fire rate high damage auto rifle worthy of a mini suros Galahad-E with the right perks is just like SR in pvp but since it has 242 damage i would avoid in pve.
2)Hard Light - Up For Anything (pve + pvp)
-UFA has high fire rate low impact, glass half full, and has the same stats as to Hard Light making it a perfect fit as a legendary Hard Light.
3)Monte Carlo - Atheon's Epilogue (pve + pvp), Up For Anything (pve + pvp)
- IMO i think MC shouldn't be replaced because the only thing it really has going for it is its exotic upgrade in addition to claws or two throwing knives. but AE similarly to Hard Light fits the profile.
[b]HAND CANNONS:[/b]
1) Hawk Moon - Red Hand (pvp + pve), Timer's Lash(pve)
- Red Hand is a great all around hand cannon that is a rolled drop but its base stats are high enough that if you get 1 or 2 good perks its a worthy substitute especially if you get "luck in the chamber". TL is rerollable through iron banner and can get very close to Hawkmoon in terms of damage and rounds and rat of fire. with ward of dawn's weapons of light a timers lash can two shot headshot like Hawkmoon.
2) Thorn -Word of Crota (pve + pvp)
- WofC like thorn is a high rate of fire low impact hand cannon, Thorn's draw is its DOT which no other Hand Cannon can offer but explosive rounds does offer some extra damage.
3) The Last Word - Nothing
- TLW is pvp only and nothing come close to its close range power.
FATEBRINGER: although not listed as a sub for any handcannons Fatebringer's perks make it close to an exotic weapon on its own as the only handcannon to have firefly. in pve it is a worthy sub for any hand as it outputs massive damage with firefly, explosive rounds, high impact, and arc damage.
[b]SCOUT RIFLES:[/b]
1) Mida Multi-Tool - Fang of Ir Yut (pve +pvp)
-Fang is a fast fire heavy hitting 331 scout rifle with third eye, this is essentially Mida without the added movement but Fang offers an added Arc burn as a primary.
[b]PULSE RIFLES:[/b]
1) Red Death - Nothing
- Red death perk is irreplaceable (besides for infusion on armor) so i can't really pick a weapon to replace it.
2) Bad JuJu - Oversoul Edict (pve + pvp) , Praedyth's Timepiece (pve + pvp)
- BAD JUJU'S PERK IS IT MAIN DRAW BUT THESE COME CLOSE WITHOUT IT. OE has a fast fire rate, managable recoil, full auto, and decent mag mirroring Bad JuJu with the bonus Arc damage. PT has basically the exact same stats as OE but offers more damage instead of full auto, once again offering Arc damage.
[b]OTHERS:[/b]
1) Universal Remote - Fellwinter's lie (pve +pvp)
- UR is hard to replace with it being a primary but Fellwinter's can often match its damage output.
2) No Land Beyond - ANY LEGENDARY SNIPER (pve +pvp)
- I think you know why.
[u][b]SPECIALS:[/b][/u]
[b]SHOTGUNS:[/b]
1) Invective - Found Verdict (pve + pvp)
- Full Auto, Similar range and impact, and fast reload and fire rate make FV a perfect choice, but you do Arc rather than Solar damage.
2) 4th Horseman - Found Verdict (pve + pvp)
- Full Auto, better range and impact, and fast reload and fire rate make FV a Better choice, but they both do Arc damage.
[b]SNIPERS:[/b]
1) Patience and Time - Praedyth's Revenge (pve + pvp), LDR (pve + pvp)
- PR has faster fire rate, almost mirror impact, higher stability and reload. You sacrafise third eye and invisibility (not really useful anyway) and Arc damage for Void. LDR's can roll with Arcf if you need it but they have more impact but less rate of fire.
2) Ice Breaker - Black Hammer (pve + pvp)
- these two are identical but IB has more recoil and has infinite ammo while BH has "infinate" ammo if you land your shots, BTW they both have Solar damage.
[b]FUSION RIFLES:[/b]
1) Plan C - Light of the Abyss (pve + pvp)
- Faster base charge rate, 7 rounds nice impact and good stability, and Arc damage makes LotA a great sub for Plan C.
2) Pocket Infinity - Praetorian Foil (pve + pvp)
- PF has faster charge rate, higher impact, longer range, higher stability than PI and they both have Solar burn. IMO Pocket Infinity isn't all that great in either pve or pvp but PF is a really good fusion rifle so i would say PF > PI.
[u][b]HEAVY:[/b][/u]
[b]ROCKETS:[/b]
1) Gjallarhorn - Hunger of Crota (pve + pvp)
- Hunger is by far the best sub for GHorn with Solar damage, similar stats in every way, tracking and cluster bombs mimicing Ghorn in a lot of ways earning it a rep as a "mini Gjallerhorn". DO NOTE THAT GJALLERHORN IS 1 OF THE TOP 3 WEAPONS IN THE GAME SO HUNGER OF CROTA WON'T DO NEARLY AS MUCH DAMAGE BUT IS A GOOD SUB.
2) Truth - Look out for rockets with 2-3 rounds, TRACKING, and a large blast radius stat (pve + pvp)
- this one is all about rolls on rockets you basically are looking for one with all those stats, Hunger of Crota is also a [i]good[/i] substitution but Truth is very unique and hard to get a legendary like it.
3) Dragons Breath - Any Legendary Rocket Launcher (pve + pvp)
- If you are using DB than you probably want the solar grenade perk other wise you would use any other rocket as it is not worth the exotic slot.
[b]MACHINE GUNS: [/b]
1) Thunderlord - Jolder's Hammer (pve + pvp)
- can be rolled with Arc or Solar JH preforms very similar to thunderlord's impact, rate of fire, and stability making it a good substitute. Do note Thunderlord is a top teir exotic so it will out preform Jolder's Hammer but JH come close.
2) Super Good Advice - Song of Ir Yut (pve + pvp)
- Song is a fast fire rate LMG with Arc burn and it has higher Rate of fire, range, reload, and mag size than SGA along with the same impact and stability. IMO SGA is never worth the exotic slot so you should always use Song over SGA.
[b]I hope this list helped most of you with choosing weapons for PVE and some what PVP. [/b]
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6 RepliesBad Juju = Conduit (same RoF)
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5 RepliesNo land beyond is worse than a legendary
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Dude. nothing can compare to the sexy skills required to use No Land Beyond
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5 RepliesI find three little words as a good sub for red death actually
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1 ReplyTLDR Raid Weapons = Exotic substitues
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11 RepliesI think hawkmoon is more similar to timur lash than fatebringer or red hand
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2 RepliesAdd timurs lash to the hawkmoon comparison. Both hard hitting low rate of fire hand cannons
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Overall I am a big fan of your idea here, though I disagree with [i]some[/i] of them, it is a great post overall.
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1 ReplyI disagreed with [b]a lot [/b]of these.
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15 RepliesThe fact you compared Hardlight to Atheons epilogue made me stop reading
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Well done!
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16 RepliesEdited by MiltonTheMango: 4/5/2015 4:13:22 AMI'm not 100% sure what your trying to do here but it seems like you just putting powerful legendaries in place instead of legendaries that feel like them. Here's what I would put Suros: abyss defiant, vanquisher (exact same stats but no focus fire) Hardlight: up for anything, for the people, shingen e Monte Carlo: up for anything, for the people, shingen e Necro: atheons epilogue Thorn: devil you don't, word of crota TLW: devil you don't, word of crota if you are tap firing but nothing when going rambo Hawkmoon (im on xbox so...): i think devil you know Mida: fang/voc not really sure Red death: bad seed down Bad juju: coiled hiss NLB: nothing Universal remote: arguments could be made for felwinters but there is nothing like it PI: 77 wizard but nothing has full auto Plan C: light of the abyss kinda, more like arc murmur Vex: nothing IB: black hammer P and t: ldr Invective: secret handshake No idea about 4th horsemen Dragons breath: steel oracle Ghorn: hunger Truth: valedictorian Thunderlord: the swarm, holders hammer a little bit SGA: harms way, mew monarchy mg
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2 RepliesIt's painfully clear to me that you have no idea how weapon archetypes work on this game.
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I would think that Three Little Words would be a substitute for Red Death in terms of straight power, but I see why you didn't put down a replacement
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1 ReplyPersonally, I would say the Up For Anything auto rifle is a good substitute for Hard Light. They have nearly identical stats, and Atheons Epilogue is probably more similar to Necrocasm than Hard Light.
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1 ReplyThanks for the list of exotic and raid weapons!
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1 ReplyShouldn't mida - b-line trauma? Feels more like mida
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4 RepliesI think with Red Death you could compare it to Three Little Words. Obviously Red Death has that healing perk which makes it amazing, but Three Little Words has a similar rate of fire, range and impact.
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2 RepliesEdited by Boneyween: 4/5/2015 2:19:57 AMPatience and time = epitaph sniper from vanilla game Also LDR is more like Patience and time. Thunder lord - the swarm Truth - proximity launcher with high velocity and blast radius ie: rageghast fury IB rocket
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10 RepliesThe fact that you compared bad juju and oversoul made me stop reading
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3 Repliesin these :Thunderlord - Jolder's Hammer I will add Deviant Gravity - A, take a look, in my profile, its very similar to Thunderlord, and i think is best as jolder's Hammer Anyway, NICE POST!
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1 ReplyFV does arc dmg, not void. Swordbeeaker does void though
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1 ReplyThese are quite a bit off for the most part, crypt dweller has identical stats to mida multi tool, the conduit future war cult pulse rifle has identical stats to bad juju, for two examples
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Seventh
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3 RepliesI could do this all day, but out of respect for the author of this post, I will stop.
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Fifth