LOL I feel your pain. I remember my first experience playing through this game, "okay everybody wipe..." Me: "huhh wipe..???" Other gamer: "yeah kill yourself" Me: "Why would I do that" Other gamer: "It's just EASIER.. Trustme" There I am sitting there just shaking my head. Wow And then my first run through end of crota. Spending 20 minutes to jump on the side of the cliffs and I'm just looking at the ground bored out of my facking mind. I end up Shooting the ground because theirs nothing else to do. It's an absolute shame. I get paired with lots of 32's as well and they think oh we're so skilled! Top tier levels like omg! But when they actually play they are garbage when it comes down to the nitty gritty execution. We try to get past a certain checkpoint & lots of times they don't have a REAL strategy when it comes down to the basics of survival. It's freaking hilarious because there I am level 30-31 on my characters and I'm usually always the last left standing. It's frustrating as hell & getting on raid teams like those are ruining the entire experience for me. To the OP Yeah it's such a dissappointment that their are few authentic gamers that enjoy the struggle + hardships it takes to go through obstacles. No sense of accomplishment. No pride. I don't know any of you but in real life killing yourself in some societies is considered foolish and cowardly. So why do it in the game? I'm one of the few that likes to fight to the end, go down swingin type of mentality. But when you tell me to chuck my body down the cliff because you are trying to go on the side of the map to avoid engagement to the enemy than tell me who the real fackin pussy is. I hate to break to you my friend, but Real gamers are a dying breed.