JavaScript is required to use Bungie.net

Forums

originally posted in:Legends of the Herb
3/29/2015 9:44:39 PM
11
So who wastes more money on a slow suicide? Pot smokers or cigarette smokers? Fyi making a topic or clan thread promoting drug use and/or breaking laws is against COC I do believe. And you cannot use (some states it's legal now!) because in America and most countries it's still a federal law and if the DEA raised you and caught you with any amount of pot you can still be tried and found guilty I'm surprised you're not partnered with clans who endorse underage drinking, jailbait, or crack babied United but whatever to each their own
English

Posting in language:

 

Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

  • 3
    Bungie is based in Washington. Marijuana is 100% legal in Washington. We do not encourage it's use. We welcome anyone friendly, smoker or non. We do not endorse illegal activities.

    Posting in language:

     

    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

  • Idc if bungie is based out of Antarctica they have to abide by laws governing where there game is sold, and federally it is against the law and can carry hefty sentences you should edit your post so it's not blatant that you actually do encourage and endorse smoking pot ie illegal activity. Tbh it's no different than making a clan friendly to Isis or Muslims who believe killing others is ok by their religion There's some things you don't bring up or advocate for even if you believe strongly for it, drug use, religion, political party are all prime examples. So to avoid being more obvious than a gay stripper really should edit and use better language to promote your drugged up clan and keep the forums clean literal and figuratively speaking

    Posting in language:

     

    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

  • You aren't really making a solid point, state laws are different than government laws. You'll rarely ever see a federal agent come to a state where weed is legal and try to make arrests on pot users. U need to go back to school and turn off fox news. Just because it's illegal, doesn't make it a just law that's why we have the state to help tailor the needs of the community. The feds have blanket laws that they don't even have the man power to enforce. And honestly if you knew some of the laws that still exits to this day, you stop this "the law is the law" tune u seem intent on singing. Half of the laws are decided in private by people that the public never even get to see. weed is illegal because of money. So don't you dare try to lump it together with other more serious crimes like underage intoxication. It's ignorant and asinine to compare such things.

    Posting in language:

     

    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

  • Weed diminishes memory and that's why long term users seem stupid or can't comprehend basic logic when tasked to do so. Plenty of research has been done to further prove its degenerative issues with memory and brain cells. Just because you think no one died from overdosing on weed (which btw you can just like you can drown from drinking too much water) doesn't mean it's this perfect thing in the world. There's more reasons that it's illegal than just money although I'm sure some of it has to do with money. And underage drinking isn't an issue if people could understand limitations and what they can and can't do drinking (fyi drinking certain wines is proven to strengthen your blood flow even as early as 16 years old). And I know plenty of dumb laws federal, state, and even local most of which were for one off cases and bizarre scenarios. I don't watch news fyi just because news is watered down a ton from facts. Maybe you should stop dying to Wikipedia and google everything and going off forums or reddit posts and do actual research before you act like using a drug is ok just because a state allows it when in fact it's still illegal federally.

    Posting in language:

     

    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

  • So because weed CAN diminish ur memory if abused, it should be illegal? Ur logic is very biased and one sided. Televisions and screens diminish our eye sight, and cause Long term problems such as headaches. Alcohol barely has any benefits outside of the remote ones u listed. Alcohol literally destroys your liver.. Coffee/Soda/Caffeine/Energy Drinks are often loaded with so man y stimulants that it can be bad for the heart with long term use as well. Everything has a down side when abused so your point about weed reducing memory is invalid, especially since it doesn't hold true for everyone. It reduces short term memory loss WHEN HIGH, when the high fades, your memory is more clear, if it's not then u need to slow down on the weed. You cannot group every pot smoker with that 1 degenerate who refuses to do anything but smoke weed all day. There have been much more studies to support the use of weed then there have been that discourage it. There are much more harmful products that are readily available and legal. These are FACTS so while you're busy trying to ignore them, I want you to remember this, Since I was a child I have told the doctors I visited that I have very serious migraines, I also have an eating disorder that tremendously reduces my appetite on a daily basis. I also have 2 lumber bones in my back that have been fusing together since I was a child as well. My headaches are partly caused by an injury I sustained as a child. The medicines I have been prescribed are placebos. And often I end up just needed more of it to make a difference, perfect example is with ibuprofen(aka motrin), it's aka medicine that when taken repeatedly will cause more harm then good. Tylenol I'd another "pain" medicine that BARELY helps and overtime ur body will need a large quantity to get any effect at all. My father currently is prescribed 2000 MG of the generic form of Tylenol, I'm at 500mg, but I use 1000 because 500 doesn't worm (and 1k barely does) u want to try to bring fact into the equation well I have first hand experience to the facts. Weed diminishes most of the problems without the side effects and placebo effects. Even if it's only a temporary solution, it's still a solution. Only the wealthy can afford permanent solutions to medical issues, sigh. I feel I'm going over your head so I'll stop this convo here. Good day.

    Posting in language:

     

    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

  • You're not over my head, well below it tbh. I never said other drugs should be legal and if I did pls quote it, I'm all for banning cigarettes and alcohol is illegal until 21 when you should be mature to know how much you can handle. Just because a few degenerates think they are invincible doesn't mean it should stay illegal for any age. The biggest difference between tv computer screens and alcohol to weed is that weed even in small quantities still destroy your brain cells for memory permanently while no fix is available and your eye sight degenerates naturally and can be corrected with glasses contact lens and surgery if need be and alcohol doesn't destroy your liver unless you abuse it which goes back to being 21 and mature enough to understand. As far as OTC drugs and prescribed drugs I know they are essentially placebos that mask whatever issue temporarily, that's also why I refuse any medicine even generics of common ones Tylenol and ibuprofen and just tolerate the pain if I have one (I'm fortunate and don't have migraines or headaches medical issues etc) because I know when and if I'm 70 I'll need them due to my lack of an immune system and don't want to pop 10 pills for the same effect of 1. I agree with you there and ppl who get addicted do have problems there's also laws out there which more easily addicted drugs like hydro codon I think it's spelled or oxy cotton (again not sure on spelling) have to be prescribed. Before you state that anyone can be prescribed just realize you can get whatever you want legal or not if you know right people (hit man still exist even)... As for OTC drugs they are too also addictive for rare circumstances especially if the placebo effect is strong. But those few don't outweigh the many who use it temporarily for relief. As for pop (soda whichever you prefer), energy drinks, coffee, etc....you can abuse it and that comes down to parenting and maturity. Did you know that you can drown drinking too much water even away from any large body of water in 100 degree weather? There is nothing you can't abuse in this world that won't harm you. A lot though do little to no harm in moderation. As for you, you have an unfortunate problem and I'm sure it sucks more than I'll know for awhile but weed isn't different than the drugs you've stated besides the fact you're picking 1 evil or another. If I said choose a bomb or a knife to kill you and you chose 1 over the other does it make it ok all of a sudden ? No, you just simply have a crappy situation and you choose 1 over the other. I simply think weed is a drug that has no use outside masking certain pains while permanently killing memory that is kind of needed and there is no reason to have it legal. Under extreme circumstances I think it could be over looked and is often but not legal for the masses to abuse it. I also think cigarettes should be illegal as well as age limits of prescribed and OTC drugs. But we both know the latter won't be due to money cash cow in it. Lastly there's a controversy over suicide on purpose. Some states (unsure of which exactly) allow people to OD on pills to kill themselves if they have a disease that has no cure so that they can die on their terms, do u think that should be legal? No need to answer me but think to yourself about it especially since you're in a situation closer to that than I. Fyi I've done research on a lot of medical issues from Cincinnati children's hospital research (number 1 arguably in the nation last several years) as well as other medical facility around Ohio region and as a topping my sister is a medical practitioner and has studied such for 13 years now. I have plenty facts to support my opinion and I'm not biased towards or against it since I don't care what ppl do just do not try to recruit others especially impressionable children on a massive forum. That's why I told OP to alter language not being so obvious.

    Posting in language:

     

    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

  • My point is everything, has a side effect. You trying to paint weed as a bad drug because it has the possibility to destroy brain cells is ignorant to the actual total effects of weed. Most drugs no matter the purpose has some type of long term side effect. If u don't think drinking alcohol slowly destroys your liver even in small quantities then u need to do more research. U have already stated u don't have many illnesses, I on the other hand have a medical file so big that university hospitals wants me to pay just for a copy of my file because my file includes hundreds of records U can read and read, but experience is experience, I have no problem with memory, and I've been smoking for the past 5 years. In fact my memory is the best of anyone I know and I'm often criticized for being 1 of those people who doesn't forget the tiny things. Brain cells do eventually degenerate on their on as welm, just like our eye sight. Your argument of "pick your poison" isn't really a deterrent, but an observation of the society we live in. That's the choice most people have to decide because better options aren't available. More people in this world have to go without things than they have the choice to have. I'm 1 of them. The long term affects that u claim weed has, has yet to come into fruition. Now had you made a statement about smoking in general I wouldn't even be arguing with u because I know smoking is bad. But weed is a versatile drug, and can be used many different ways, such as digestion or through vapor. I am very in tune with my body's health, and I know the effects of everything I do to it. If u think getting corrective eye surgery is an expense that's practical to the average person you're being blind and ignorant to the facts. Again, everything has a downside, especially when abused, that is something we agree on, but for some reason u refuse to except the fact that the side effects of weed are minimal and controllable just as the side effects of watching TV or eating too much pizza/pop. You hold onto this loss of memory and brain cell loss but yet u have no first hand experience of the sort. Weed is a depressant and over time if u abuse it u will feel sluggish and have a loss of empathy/motivation, but that's if u don't respect the abilities of the plant in the first place. You're trying to paint the actions of the individual as the actions of the population. U want prohibition even though it has been proven that prohibition doesn't work and infringes on the rights of common people. Smoking is bad for ur lungs, yes. Drinking is bad for ur liver, yes. Bright screens are bad for ur eyes, yes. Too much sun is bad for your skin, yes. Drinking too much water can drown u (my past profession deals directly with the sort), yes. But all of those things are avoidable. Stimulants, Depressants, hallucinogens, narcotics/opiates, steroids, etv etc all have a downside. But to ostracize 1 specific type, especially one that's grown in nature not chemically deduced through chemical processing, is an unfair assessment. Nobody will ever convince me that it's ok for drs to prescribe people drugs that they know will have long term unsavory side effects, but weed is a demon drug that has no place In a functional society. Yeah right. When this country makes Healthcare free for all, then I'd maybe open up to the though of drugs like weed being restricted, but until then weed has been working for me, with minimal undesired/unexpected side effects. There are hundreds of strains of weed that will all affect everyone differently, there isn't enough hard data out there to support the crucifixion of weed, that's a hard fact. It's about money, and u will see that soon enough. Weed will cut into the profits of so many businesses in america to because of its benefits that alot go staple items will eventually be replaced with a more efficient form of medication. U said it's not about money? Do u have any idea what our government is about? Our country uses capitalism. That says the most about the situation.

    Posting in language:

     

    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

  • I never said that weed is a demon drug or anything of the sort, I said it's illegal and should remain illegal, just like crack, pvp, lsd, acid, shrooms etc. just because you don't have memory loss doesn't mean it's a serious issue. I've known a few people with 4.0 gpa in high school highly intelligent scholarships and then in college drop out from smoking weed (probably partying too much as well but they aren't very bright anymore). Studies for many years have shown it to be true and while there are other evils most can be corrected while memory loss and cells are irreplaceable And drinking minimally doesn't destroy your liver, you have to abuse it to destroy your liver. Now if our interpretation of minimal is different then yea I can see why you'd think that but that's a whole other conversation. And it's not about money solely, if it was then big business' would get in on it monopolize it and be taxed heavily by the government, you can't deny that especially how easily grown weed is depending on strain. Yes a lot does include money I'm sure but a lot has to do with FDA as well as other groups. As for you, as I've stated before under extreme circumstances I'm sure the government as well as people in general look past it ie medical use legalization for people who could use it and not much other options. For health care, that's a big thing for businesses to have these days is insurance and although we both agree health care in America isn't the best it's not entirely impossible just need to find a way to get in. More work for some over others definitely but not impossible You state I'm biased yet you're the one on it and because of your own personal experience you're very biased while without personal experience to me I've done research on it a ton and think it'll stay illegal and should. It was ok in the 70s along with other drugs before ppl looked into it that's why it's around more heavily than most drugs and is now very illegal. My point is still proven that like you said everything can have a side effect abused but weeds side effective is irreplaceable and last I checked you need your memory and brain cells (alcoholics who kill the liver should stop drinking they have no control) and ppl shouldn't endorse or encourage use of an illegal item on forums visited by mass young children/adults If you use it and need go for it my factual opinion remains but don't broadcast encouraging others. It's not this miracle drug that cures all it's simply a mask of pain

    Posting in language:

     

    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

  • Don't be a tool, eh?

    Posting in language:

     

    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

  • Nice to know opinions and facts make me a tool, so what are you then ? Besides dense ;)

    Posting in language:

     

    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

  • 1
    Okay thanks for the tip!

    Posting in language:

     

    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

You are not allowed to view this content.
;
preload icon
preload icon
preload icon