Ok so I have most of the exotics in the game now thanks to thunderlord dropping for me this week and Xûr selling Red Death (woo)
As a beta player and a day 1 player I've been here a while and there's something that confuses the shit outta me.
If I play the weekly heroics I earn strange coins. If I then use those strange coins to buy armour or weapons then that means I have technically earned them, correct?
However if I run a vanguard strike and hey look I got a legendary engram from a level 26 psion. I take it to Rahool and in his infinite wisdom he grants me no land beyond.
Now as far as a proportion of this community is concerned the latter method is legitimate where as the former is frowned upon?
Does anyone else see this as fücking stupid
Edit: to all those saying that there is no earning in this game. I got my thorn bounty at level 24, I suck at crucible and i solo'd the strike. It took me over an hour just todo the last part of the strike and kill the unwed.
The crucible part was brutal as a 1.0kd for me is amazing. So maintaining a positive kd while using only void weapons was incredibly difficult.
I personally believe I earned my thorn
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It's like winning the lottery and bitching at other people for having money cause they work for it
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4 RepliesThe equation balances thus: Xûrning=Earning
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Edited by maximus: 3/14/2015 2:04:42 PMBump Edit: To those who bitch about people who got it by RNG imo they 'earnt' their exotics as well because usually it involved multiple nightfalls, raids etc. To conclude all exotics are earnt....
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1 ReplyIt's just snowflakes getting upset that other people have nice things. Also they seem to have this weird idea that everyone who got a drop worked really hard for it and everyone who bought something from xur bought the game yesterday and was handed a brand new exotic for doing nothing at all. They forget that actually newer players don't have that many strange coins yet. The ones with only one character have to save and grind for weeks to buy a primary like red death, and if he sells two things they want they actually have to choose. They forget what it's like to have a lot of your armor and most of your weapons still be blue and have to carefully weigh each purchase because buying red death this week means probably forgoing a piece of armor or any weapon next week. The players with tons of strange coins sitting around who tear through the weekly in less than twenty minutes? They've put in the work. That's how they got all those strange coins in the first place. They're also out there doing nightfall, doing the raids, grinding away, and if they can finally buy from xur what rng stubbornly refuses to give them despite all their work, they've more than earned it.
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Edited by Carolina OvR: 3/14/2015 1:56:43 PMTo everyone using the job vs lottery comparison... You are wrong. Well at least in my case (and the case of others) doing 3 NF 3 weeklies 3 crota raids 3 VoGs and many games of crucible to attempt to get the exotics (I need that elusive thunderlord) is doing much more to "earn" it than just running the 3 weeklies every week to buy it. I don't care that he sells the stuff[quote][/quote] (I have got almost all of my exotic armors from him since none of the raids drop exotic armor) but your reasoning behind "earning strange coins" is definitely not correct in comparison to those who spend a lot of time on the game trying to get the items to drop for them. Xur cheapens the achievement. [spoiler]I have been lucky enough to get every exotic weapon from RNG except thunder lord so maybe that affects my mindset some.. [/spoiler]
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2 Replies"Earners" ought to call it what it is, "eaRNinG."
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2 RepliesExplain yourself: Tom and jack like cars. They both like the same car. Jack works his goddamn ass off and buys that car when he finaly has enough money and its available. Tom buys a lottery ticket and wins the car. So who earned it? Jack who xurned it. Or tom who " earned it "
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It's a VIDEO GAME people. The only people who care if you "earned"( which is funny because drops are random) and "xurned" are the players who are to wrapped up in something that doesn't matter. Enjoy the gear you get, whichever way you get it, and ignore the haters who apparently have nothing better to do with their lives than to worry about how someone got a gun in a video game.
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1 ReplyIt's making me confused my ghorn was bought from xur week 2 so according to some i didn't earn it however since then I have gotten 8 more Did I earn it or not :/
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1 ReplyEarning = Spending thousands of hours grinding to *hopefully* aquire the god-tier, end game gear. Xurning = Spending these common coins and basically being given the end game gear with little work and grinding. Can any guardian here imagine howmany exotic items they wouldn't have if Xur didn't exist... Lol, exotics would ACTUALLY be rare and sought after...
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1 ReplyHere's the thing, the "earners" have a problem. They believe that the gear they have was hard earned because they have fallen into the trap set up by a RNG reward system. They like to call "Xurners" scrubs ect. It's not that people are "scrubs" it's that the game has a huge flaw, it's RNG reward system. This system sometimes creates huge swings in the way loot is handed out. Because of this there are people who have put vast amounts of gameplay time into Destiny and have done every possible thing they can do and still won't have the "luck" others may have who have done the same. Then there are people who have done much less than these people who have gotten more than them. An unfortunate side effect of an RNG reward system is that when you run the hamster wheel long enough and eventually the system tosses you a "reward" you feel it was hard earned when in fact it was not. The system doesn't care what you do or when it chooses to hand out an item. It is random. It doesn't care if you have had to run the VoG 100 times or just once when it hands you that McLast. It doesn't care if you had a 0.12 KD or a 3+ KD when it hands you that Jellyhorn. It is random and some people just don't get that because they have become addicted to the hamster wheel. "Just a few more runs and I'll get my reward" they keep telling themselves and when the "reward" comes it makes them believe the time spent was worth it and that "reward" was hard earned. It is a great and simple trick used by Bungie and others to keep you playing but in reality it was just luck. A roll of a dice, a spin of a wheel that decided to hand you that item at that time. When the "earners" begin to realise that, then they may become better people. And it is because of the flawed system that Bungie put Xûr into the games, as a way to level the RNG playing field. Another thing to consider is if Destiny was not an MMO where you can easily see what gear everyone has, like a single player game, then Xûr would not be a problem to these people. But because it is, they use it as a way to put others down as they are deluded by the way the RNG hamster wheel actually works.
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Your right. However, if it's an exotic bounty weapon that kind of means you earned it a bit more, as you actually had to go through a tough mission to get it
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It's dumb as hell. The problem is, the 'earners' are the idiots who can't seem to grasp a simple fact; RNG is not the primary means of attaining better loot in Destiny. Bungie has said this numerous times. You want the best weapons and armor? Play the game, earn Marks and Strange Coins, and purchase them from Vendors. RNG is 'icing on the cake' according to Bungie. It's meant to be something that is cool when it happens, but that's about it. The 'earners' have turned this on it's head. In their mind, the 'proper' way to get Exotics and such is through RNG because it takes more 'effort'. Needless to say, they aren't very smart.
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2 RepliesEdited by JarodColdbreak: 3/15/2015 12:21:43 AMFun fact: There is no earning in this game. Edit: I know the exotic bounties but I stand by my comment XD
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Xurners are the earners.
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I agree it's really stupid.
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Edited by DroppedAsInfant: 3/14/2015 7:30:55 AMLet's stop responding to the negative earning vs xurning posts!!! That does not help the situation. It just allows stupid opinions to receive attention!!!
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Earners. The best part of them ran down moms leg at conception. Xurners. They did more than buy a ticket and get lucky.
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1 Reply"Earning" = Spoiled Brat "Xurning" - Normal Player
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There is no difference,people who use these phrases are the ones who whine because they aren't special anymore,literally no other reason. Its hilarious and contradicting because randomly getting an item from a random enemy is considered earning,yet literally earning coins isn't. It makes no sense and it should just be looked at like a child throwing a fit.
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Buying gear with coins is one of the only true methods of earning in this game not excluding marks & commendations. RNG acquisition is exactly what it implies along the mathematical properties of probability. If you have to play specifically for a specific number of specific currency to buy a specific item, when without set currency you cannot make that purchase, then this action is identifiable as "earning".
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1 ReplyEarning = earned, which you can't do in destiny as its RNG so that statement is bullshit. Xurning = Buying items from xur, which is why he is there so why shouldn't people use something the game provides.
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I think it is called trolling.
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the way I see it is buy from xur: is like going to work getting paid then head over to the store and buying your item RNG Drop: is like going to different stores filling out raffles and waiting for luck to land you a prize at the end of the day who really give a F_CK what way you went about getting your hands on exotic
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Xurn = people who on occasion buy a desired item off of an in game vendor. Earn = people who cry about a vendor selling something that they already have, though they have purchased other items from that vendor in the past making them hypocrites
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'Dumb' and 'Dûmber'