Ehhhh...wrong. PVP players whining about (insert gun name here) being too OP, then said gun being nerfed to near useless in PVP [b]AND[/b] PVE eclipses any and all other whining. It's ruined COD, it's ruined BF and not it's ruining Destiny, all the little KDR whores getting butthurt that someone managed to kill them, so the gun must be OP because no way they should die, right? Quit being naive.

Most PVP players don't really complain about weapons. In the crucible any gun can be amazing since level, weapon damage, and element mean absolutely nothing. Feels like most PVE players who aren't in the crucible enough get mad that the exotic weapon they just received doesn't let them go 22-1.

Have you looked on the forums lately? All the complaints are about how broken a weapon is in crucible or how useless their weapon became after the update. First it was the vex. That got nerfed to hell. Then it got buffed when more complaints followed. Just recently it was the thorn and suros. Now those guns got nerfed. PVE players on the other hand? We complain about real fixes that should be implemented such as bug fixes in the raids and things like the heavy ammo bug which was addressed. Maybe if the pvp players would stop complaining about things that do not matter and follow the example of the PVE players, we wouldn't complain about you guys as much.

Do you even crucible? And if you spent enough time playing this game you would see that Bungie only tailors to PVP players more than PVE players. Go ahead and look at my raid stats and you'll see I've dealt with my fair share of bugs and glitches on raids. How long did it take them to fix raid glitches in the VOG? Well they never fixed them, Atheon is still as buggy as usual How about crota? The sword still de spawns every now and then, crota will jump off plat form and chase you, he goes immune and yet all bungie talks about in their patch notes is weapon tuning and PVP fixes.

What does that have to do with the crucible players complaining more? I was addressing your statement that crucible players never whine about weapons.