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12/13/2012 7:23:06 AM
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Halo 4 population under 100k: The death of Halo?
[url]http://halocharts.com/2012/chart/dailypeakpopulation/all[/url]
Well, I just want to go on a short rant. This game needs a TU. For one, killcams are wrong far too often to have any reason to keep them in game. Even worse, hit detection & lag is so bad you may get two hitmarkers and die to a sniper, only to see that in the killcam my shot didn't even go off. It's the kind of thing you expect in an Infinity Ward game, but not in Halo. According to speedtest.net I have 40 down and 30 up which is within average for middle class Americans so it's not my internet here. The game has more false hits/lag than Reach and even more than Halo 3 back in its prime (halo 3 has far more lag now due to low population and increased foreigners for all). I've had less issues with false hit detection in Black Ops 2 than Halo 4. That needs to be fixed.
I'm too tired to full on rant, but that's the major issue for me gameplay wise. Otherwise I love the gunplay and game physics. Some of the maps seem good and some seem bad, but I can't tell if it's only because of bad initial spawns and dynamic/ordinance spawning or if it actually a bad map in itself.
[b]Other major halo 4 issues that need to be fixed*:[/b]
-The inability to search for a file with the tag system
-Spartan Ops is too repetitive, needs unique locations, and the missions seem to have little to no relation to the storyline cutscenes. Personally, I'd rather have ODST Firefight or [b]REAL[/b] DLC Campaign than Spartan Ops in its current state
-Lack of customization options in Custom Games Settings
-The lack of precision when using LB/RB in Forge and barely increased budget, also lighting issues on 2 out of 3 of the forge environments
-Lack of a classic playlist/slayer pro is bad because of join in progress and dynamic spawning
-The terrible DLC achievements...seriously several of them are ridiculous and you almost have to boost them in a full party lobby in order to get them.
*from highest to lowest priority
[Edited on 12.12.2012 11:24 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] joedanny96 >caring about babbies first fps >2013[/quote] >calls us "babbies" > can't even spell babies correctly Moron
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Im just not feeling the same magic anymore with halo. One reason contribting could be that I got older, but the other half is that the maps just arent interesting. I still can go back to halo 3 still be amazed at how good the maps like sandtrp and avalanche,(the one with the mancannons and hornets??) and Highground were. They had dynamic elements unique to each map in the form of gates or gravity lifts or caves or something, also The customs were phenomenal back then. Reach and 4 didnt have anything like that. The maps in reach were ok and the maps in 4 are even less then ok. The only one i like is Exile. They are trying to much to copy cods formula and push competitive gaming but they forget that halo has always separated themselves from that and been about goofy ridiculous maps and fun. There was always room for MLG but it wasnt the focus And there is also the fact in the year 2012 we still dont have a way to browse for customs? Why include forge at all if I have no incentive to make maps. What are like my 5 friends who would even want to play customs going to be the only ones who see my map? Nah I'm done. I'm jumping ship for Destiny and hopefully the rumored Marathon reboot as soon as I can. [Edited on 12.13.2012 1:26 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Halfanhour4 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spartain ken 15 If 343i would of made Halo like Halo 2/3 and not like cod in space more people would enjoy it. If people want to play cod, they will play cod. People want a unique experience that is fun. Halo 4 isn't really that fun and it is super buggy. I hope 343i listens to their fans this time and makes Halo 5 a great game or they will just kill their brand. [/quote] Wow, this is literally all the regurgitated -blam!- haters have been spewing out for the past 3 months in one post. Well done Ken [/quote] You know why it's regurgitated? Because its true
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spartain ken 15 If 343i would of made Halo like Halo 2/3 and not like cod in space more people would enjoy it. If people want to play cod, they will play cod. People want a unique experience that is fun. Halo 4 isn't really that fun and it is super buggy. I hope 343i listens to their fans this time and makes Halo 5 a great game or they will just kill their brand. [/quote] Wow, this is literally all the regurgitated -blam!- haters have been spewing out for the past 3 months in one post. Well done Ken
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DatDudeBV [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AgentCOP1 Does no one understand the concept of finals?[/quote] So finals impact halo 4s population but not BO2s? Lol[/quote] Maybe Halo players are more studious.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AgentCOP1 Does no one understand the concept of finals?[/quote] So finals impact halo 4s population but not BO2s? Lol
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Does no one understand the concept of finals?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Studness4 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Methew Every -blam!-ing time I see a thread like this, this is what I think: "OH TEH NOES! H4's population is declining! That objectively proves it's a bad game with no need to explain or account for other contributing factors that could account for it's population drop! Oh and COD is a horrible game even though it has more players on it than most games on the XBL Activity Charts combined."[/quote] But Black Ops 2 isnt a horrible game. Its actually very fun. And if it was horrible people wouldnt be playing it in masses.[/quote] Nice opinion Except its not.
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This thread is full of dumbass.
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It's finals week at universities all across the country. Chill out.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Methew Every -blam!-ing time I see a thread like this, this is what I think: "OH TEH NOES! H4's population is declining! That objectively proves it's a bad game with no need to explain or account for other contributing factors that could account for it's population drop! Oh and COD is a horrible game even though it has more players on it than most games on the XBL Activity Charts combined."[/quote] But Black Ops 2 isnt a horrible game. Its actually very fun. And if it was horrible people wouldnt be playing it in masses.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CND AAA Beef It's simple people. [u][b]There are more shooters out on Xbox now.[/b][/u] When Halo 3 came out, the most popular shooters were: Gears, Vegas, GRAW, and CoD 2. That was literally it. And obviously, Halo 3 was going to have a much bigger fanbase then one new franchise and three others that have been traditionally PC. Now what do we have? All the Halo games on 360. MW2, MW3, Blops, Blops II. BF3, BC2. Gears 3. GRFS. etc... The number of AAA shooters has more than doubled. Obviously, not everyone's going to play only Halo any more.[/quote] this
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Every -blam!-ing time I see a thread like this, this is what I think: "OH TEH NOES! H4's population is declining! That objectively proves it's a bad game with no need to explain or account for other contributing factors that could account for it's population drop! Oh and COD is a horrible game even though it has more players on it than most games on the XBL Activity Charts combined."
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Because killcams make or break a video game right? Because 100,000 players means no one is playing, right?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheBrandingIron IT is also finals for a lot of young people.[/quote] No excuse, they could've hired a substitute.
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IT is also finals for a lot of young people.
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HALO NEEDS A STIMPAK!!! HURRYY
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I'm not playing it until they get rid of custom loadouts, instant respawns, and ordinance drops out of BTB.
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A 3 Legged Goat lied, he said that this game would keep its population for months when I asked him when it would die. I want a refund!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dragondude8o [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Rhea [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] EChondo If it's not broke, don't fix it. They obviously don't know the golden rule. EA/Dice broke this rule and now look at BF3,[/quote]BF3 is a huge success especially because Dice still supports the game with patches and DLC. A year later, the game still has around 40,000 gamers on PS3, 30,000 gamers on the xbox. Even beats Halo 4's population sometimes. Halo 4 would be more popular if it had a rank system like Halo 2 to begin with. [/quote] First think about this: when Halo 4 has less 40k players at a time, BF3 has less than 5000.[/quote]Currently on BF3 there are [url=http://bf3stats.com/]29k players [/url]on Xbox 360 (http://bf3stats.com/) and [url=http://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/intel/playlists]42k players[/url] on Halo 4. Late at night, Halo 4's population drops drastically and BF3's population stays around the same probably because a lot of BF3 gamers are European. Still, it is concerning that Halo 4, a game that was released a month ago, has a really low population considering how popular Halo games usually are.
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Its not hard to see the cold truth. A ranking would only get in 1-4k players.. I think Halo needs to return to its chillout roots (1-3). Balanced between Competitive and casual (maybe even no bias at all) and fun to play (even not trying) [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Killer4785 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Rhea [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] EChondo If it's not broke, don't fix it. They obviously don't know the golden rule. EA/Dice broke this rule and now look at BF3,[/quote]BF3 is a huge success especially because Dice still supports the game with patches and DLC. A year later, the game still has around 40,000 gamers on PS3, 30,000 gamers on the xbox. Even beats Halo 4's population sometimes. Halo 4 would be more popular if it had a rank system like Halo 2 to begin with. [/quote] A ranking system wouldn't make H4 more popular. The real reasons why H4 has a low population is... 1. Strict True-Skill System - This makes it impossible to enjoy playing with your friends because if anyone has a high True Skill rank you will play nothing but try-hards. Game is not fun when it becomes a job. 2. The game is basically sci-fi clone of CoD and BF. People played Halo because it was the last modern arena style shooter. There is no arena style game mechanics left in the game. [/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] lucking spartan [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DatDudeBV [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] theHurtfulTurkey It's finals week. Settle down.[/quote] Excuses[/quote] this if my memory still works the same happened when reach launched[/quote] Is black ops 2s population under 100k cause its finals week?
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If that's considered dead, then I wonder what some of the games I play are considered. Poor Code of Princess, there was only like 3 other people playing that the day it came out...
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Rhea [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] EChondo If it's not broke, don't fix it. They obviously don't know the golden rule. EA/Dice broke this rule and now look at BF3,[/quote]BF3 is a huge success especially because Dice still supports the game with patches and DLC. A year later, the game still has around 40,000 gamers on PS3, 30,000 gamers on the xbox. Even beats Halo 4's population sometimes. Halo 4 would be more popular if it had a rank system like Halo 2 to begin with. [/quote] A ranking system wouldn't make H4 more popular. The real reasons why H4 has a low population is... 1. Strict True-Skill System - This makes it impossible to enjoy playing with your friends because if anyone has a high True Skill rank you will play nothing but try-hards. Game is not fun when it becomes a job. 2. The game is basically sci-fi clone of CoD and BF. People played Halo because it was the last modern arena style shooter. There is no arena style game mechanics left in the game.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DatDudeBV [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] theHurtfulTurkey It's finals week. Settle down.[/quote] Excuses[/quote] this if my memory still works the same happened when reach launched [Edited on 12.13.2012 9:22 AM PST]
