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10/2/2012 8:53:26 PM
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The Most Significant Battle in History
What do you think is the most significant battle in history? It doesn't have to be set in fact in a history book, this is about your opinion and no one elses.
Alternatively if you don't have an idea of the most significant, what is your favorite battle to study if you have any?
I cant put it down to a single battle, so in my opinion the Eastern Front during World War 2 was the most significant.
[Edited on 10.02.2012 1:03 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HipiO7 I don't know which one would be more important really; Platea or Poiteirs.[/quote] Well, since Platea essentially ended the second Graeco-Persian war, and that the Greeks are essentially the inventors of methodological naturalism... Yeah, I'd have to say the inventors of science triumphing from near-defeat is more important in my opinion.
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D-day/ Normandy invasion or The liberation of the -blam!- controlled countries during WW2.
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I am surprised this is the first time someone brought this battle up! [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CoolAlliki Waterloo.[/quote]
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Kursk, Stalingrad, or midway.
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Japan still would have attacked Pearl Harbor, so no matter what the U.S. would be in the war. The Germans were going to attack the Russians no matter what so the pact didn't really matter. I think the Soviets would still destroy the Germans eventually... [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Barnacle_Blast In Modern History I would say The Battle of Britain during WWII as said before. Think about it. If Britain had lost the entire RAF and Royal Navy and the Luftwaffe and German Navy had complete air supremacy and control of the English Channel Operation Sea Lion would have commenced. The Russians had signed the Nonaggression Pact with Germany. It was only when that Pact was violated that Russia got involved in the war. But what if the Pact was never violated? Britain would be all alone to fight the mighty German war machine. The United States did not want to get into the war. So hypothetically if Operation Sea Lion had succeeded and the Russians kept at bay Britain would have been invaded. The United States would have had to solely retake Europe while simultaneously fight the Japanese Empire in the Pacific. If England was successfully invaded by Germany in WWII I don't believe the Allies would have won the war. [/quote]
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Waterloo.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Obi Wan Stevobi Battle of Plataea, it ended the Greco-Persian war and secured the existence of Western society.[/quote] Actually, now that I think of it, I'd choose either this one or the Battle of Poiteirs, which faced the invading muslims who had taken Spain against the grandfather of Carlomagno, which later founded the Sacrosanct Roman Empire. Basically saved all of Europe. I don't know which one would be more important really; Platea or Poiteirs.
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In Modern History I would say The Battle of Britain during WWII as said before. Think about it. If Britain had lost the entire RAF and Royal Navy and the Luftwaffe and German Navy had complete air supremacy and control of the English Channel Operation Sea Lion would have commenced. The Russians had signed the Nonaggression Pact with Germany. It was only when that Pact was violated that Russia got involved in the war. But what if the Pact was never violated? Britain would be all alone to fight the mighty German war machine. The United States did not want to get into the war. So hypothetically if Operation Sea Lion had succeeded and the Russians kept at bay Britain would have been invaded. The United States would have had to solely retake Europe while simultaneously fight the Japanese Empire in the Pacific. If England was successfully invaded by Germany in WWII I don't believe the Allies would have won the war.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ArchNinja64 The Battle of Sector 001[/quote] Still don't understand why the Bord didn't go back in time, [i]then[/i] go to Earth. Argh
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World War II gets my vote. Or The Battle of Tours (the battle that largely stopped the spread of Islam into Europe)
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Obi Wan Stevobi Battle of Plataea, it ended the Greco-Persian war and secured the existence of Western society.[/quote] Thank God, I thought no one would be thinking this far back. +1
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The Battle of Sector 001, or Wolf 349
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Its better than discussing Halo 4 every 5 seconds. It takes a bit of intelligence to discuss it as well, so this thread really isn't for you apparently. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kneecap Oh, how did I know this thread would become hot topic? Oh wait, because it always does. You guys suck.[/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garland It wasn't the Spanish losing and it wasn't just a religious war; it was Europeans winning against an encroaching Ottoman Empire. It was a major turning point in the fight between the Europeans and the Ottomans for control of the Mediterranean. The historical implications of this siege had a far larger affect on Western history than a simple delaying tactic used by some Greeks. Thermopylae is not the lynchpin of history that popular culture makes it to be.[/quote] I never said it was, I said it was a contributing factor in the Greco-Persian wars, which are indeed quite important to all of Western history, because by all accounts, they should have been destroyed by the much larger force. It's extremely debatable, even unrealistic, that all of Europe would have been lost had Malta fallen. The same can be said about Stalingrad or the Battle of Britian. The loss of either one would have been a serious blow to the allies, but I don't think they automatically mean ultimate German victory, especially since the US still would have had nukes first. The final defeat of the Persian empire at Plataea is the one battle where I think a loss would have guaranteed the fall of our civilization as we know it today.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garland [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Obi Wan Stevobi [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garland [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Obi Wan Stevobi [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garland That's what happens when most posters are teenage armchair generals.[/quote] Perhaps they are given modern media attention because of their importance to history.[/quote]I doubt that. The siege of Malta in the mid sixteenth century had similar acts of heroism as Thermopylae and overall had a larger impact on history, yet you never hear anyone talk about it. I can guarantee you that would change drastically if Frank Miller were to write a graphic novel about it.[/quote] The Spanish losing a bit of ground in a religious war doesn't seem as important of the threat of Western civilization being destroyed in its infancy.[/quote]It wasn't the Spanish losing and it wasn't just a religious war; it was Europeans winning against an encroaching Ottoman Empire. It was a major turning point in the fight between the Europeans and the Ottomans for control of the Mediterranean. The historical implications of this siege had a far larger affect on Western history than a simple delaying tactic used by some Greeks. Thermopylae is not the lynchpin of history that popular culture makes it to be.[/quote] Neither was Malta, really. It was useful in that the ground was held, preventing the Ottoman Empire from gaining the strategic advantage the island represented. However, it's value as a symbol was what really made the difference, just like Thermopylae.
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Well obviosly it was the second battle of Earth, had humans lost the covenant would have wiped all life in the galaxy. Including turtles.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kneecap Oh, how did I know this thread would become hot topic? Oh wait, because it always does. You guys suck.[/quote] "Hey guys. Lets talk about something interesting that we have talked about before, at length, instead of contributing next to nothing to 83 topics, approximately half of which we have contributed next to nothing towards at a previous date." Let people talk about interesting subjects. If another "
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kneecap Oh, how did I know this thread would become hot topic? Oh wait, because it always does. You guys suck.[/quote]Would you rather see more threads whining about Halo 4?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Obi Wan Stevobi [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garland [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Obi Wan Stevobi [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garland [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MyNameIsCharlie Its hilarious that literally every battle that is being seriously discussed has a movie or game (in some cases both) made for it.[/quote]That's what happens when most posters are teenage armchair generals.[/quote] Perhaps they are given modern media attention because of their importance to history.[/quote]I doubt that. The siege of Malta in the mid sixteenth century had similar acts of heroism as Thermopylae and overall had a larger impact on history, yet you never hear anyone talk about it. I can guarantee you that would change drastically if Frank Miller were to write a graphic novel about it.[/quote] The Spanish losing a bit of ground in a religious war doesn't seem as important of the threat of Western civilization being destroyed in its infancy.[/quote]It wasn't the Spanish losing and it wasn't just a religious war; it was Europeans winning against an encroaching Ottoman Empire. It was a major turning point in the fight between the Europeans and the Ottomans for control of the Mediterranean. The historical implications of this siege had a far larger affect on Western history than a simple delaying tactic used by some Greeks. Thermopylae is not the lynchpin of history that popular culture makes it to be.
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Oh, how did I know this thread would become hot topic? Oh wait, because it always does. You guys suck.
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The battle to control the wild: The domestication of cows, chickens, other farm animals. Farming techniques. The ending of being a nomadic people, with people now settling down due to farming and domesticated animals.
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Stalingrad is up there.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garland [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Obi Wan Stevobi [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garland [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MyNameIsCharlie Its hilarious that literally every battle that is being seriously discussed has a movie or game (in some cases both) made for it.[/quote]That's what happens when most posters are teenage armchair generals.[/quote] Perhaps they are given modern media attention because of their importance to history.[/quote]I doubt that. The siege of Malta in the mid sixteenth century had similar acts of heroism as Thermopylae and overall had a larger impact on history, yet you never hear anyone talk about it. I can guarantee you that would change drastically if Frank Miller were to write a graphic novel about it.[/quote] The Spanish losing a bit of ground in a religious war doesn't seem as important of the threat of Western civilization being destroyed in its infancy.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garland [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Tibetz [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garland [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Tibetz Strategic victory against Ottoman forces in the Mediterranean, slowed further advance into Europe. Just felt it was appropriate considering your examples [/quote]You. . . I like you.[/quote] Why?[/quote]Look at my post on the last page. I used Malta to make a point to Obi Wan.[/quote] Heh. ironically, the only reason I've heard of it is because John Ringo mentioned it in one of his Science Fiction novels...
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Tibetz [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garland [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Tibetz [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] haaz69 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Tibetz Malta.[/quote] ?[/quote] Strategic victory against Ottoman forces in the Mediterranean, slowed further advance into Europe. Just felt it was appropriate considering your examples [/quote]You. . . I like you.[/quote] Why?[/quote]Look at my post on the last page. I used Malta to make a point to Obi Wan.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garland [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Tibetz [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] haaz69 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Tibetz Malta.[/quote] ?[/quote] Strategic victory against Ottoman forces in the Mediterranean, slowed further advance into Europe. Just felt it was appropriate considering your examples [/quote]You. . . I like you.[/quote] Why?
