The thorn and last word are pvp dons. They are running the show. Anyone who has played lately or done trials knows these guns are appearing in droves. [u]It's not that they need a nerf. It's the other guns need a BUFF. [/u] Yes I said it. To many guns are just simply lack luster. Necro is a start. Raid exotic and it absolutely sucks in pve and pvp. Then moving on - Suros. This is still good. But not great. No one is taking it over thorn or last word in competitive trials or multiplayer. Hard light? Bad juju - this gun is in the verge if been absolutely stellar. It's good, but not thorn or last word standards. Am I wrong? No. Let's see a great player go against great player. One with thorn the other bad juju. I would say looking at the trials weapon of choice % it's not going to be the juju. So please stop with the nerf posts. Let's get some actual balance going on here. Auto rifles are lame now. As a class they were butchered........ BUFF