Everything about the upgrade system this time around is perfect, except it's availability bias.
- too readily available from trials (unavailable if you can't play weekends or don't use LFG.)
- too inconsistent from PoE (some weeks look to be extremely easy, some weeks a massive slog without RNG gear, like the Horn.)
- currently only dropping as a very rare reward from the nightfall (1 from 6 only obtained from 25% of players in the poll I put up a few days ago.)
Most people I know who have had the time to play ToO are sitting on 10-20 etheric. Unless Comet is going to make them purchasable, or negate the need for them to upgrade gear/use pre-Comet gear, then we're going to end up with a massive gap between the haves and the have-nots.
Not healthy for the future balancing of content.
Thoughts?
Edit: a few people have suggested that Bungie have kept etheric's drop rate low from the Nightfall, in an attempt to force people who haven't bought HoW to buy the DLC. If this is the case and the motivation, simply remove etheric from the non-DLC loot table. Why should people who aren't prepare to support the game expect to be able to develop their character beyond the limits of the content that they've paid for, anyway? The only place this will affect them is in the Banner, and that would be their choice, thus their problem. They'll be able to do everything else available to them with the gear that they have.
It seems wrong to penalize people who are supporting the game, just to spite people who aren't.
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12 nightfalls, 0 etheric.
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Maybe not a guaranty, but the chances should be raised. In fact I would think it should be a 1 out of six. And should be in place of the legendary or exotic.
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This is why lvling systems like this fail so fućking hard. Bungie admitted themselves that it wasn't the best path they could have chosen for lvling characters. So instead of doing something about it in HoW, they just made it harder to achieve a max lvl that really doesn't make a damn bit of difference from being one lvl below the cap. That goes for ToO, IB, and PoE (except for Skolas).
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Edited by Kone19ps: 6/5/2015 2:11:56 PMId say keep it how it is but add etheric light to the hard raid loot tables instead. This gives the whole game universal relevance again, gives players having a hard time with HOW a chance while keeping the guaranteed rewards in HOW content, and would bring a lot of veteran raiders back to support the newer players in raids currently. If you like the idea show your support here. https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/127263639/0/0
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got 3 Level 33 characters, run NF's, raids, and PoE, yet to see one Etheric Light
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Edited by DaywalkerDoctor: 6/6/2015 12:13:55 PMEtheric light is in fact a GUARANTEED drop from prison of elders activity level 34 and 35. Etheric light is not a guaranteed drop from Trials of Osiris matches or their reward tiers. Iron Banner is the only pvp location to contain guaranteed etheric light availability.
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Daily bump.
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I disagree do poe suzan
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Two weeks in a row of long LFG waitsl times only to be followed by failed 34 PoE attempts. 2 weeks of no rewards from PoE and 3 weeks of no etheric from nightfall. -blam!- this game. Too goddamn abusive.
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Who care it should be hard to come by. The dlc isn't even a month old.
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Agreed, etheric light is far to rare ATM. Have only gotten one from 7 nightfalls.
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That would be great! I'm all in to bump that all day.
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I cant believe i have to wait more than 5 mins to max my character. Fix it bungie
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You can get 6 from PoE a week and up to three during nightfall. Usually about 3-5 through trials, and once a month, up to six more from Iron Banner. Seems pretty ok to me.
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Why they aren't really hard to get Trials And iron banner rank 3
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Guess what I got doing the NF??
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Edited by xXflaw365lessXx: 6/2/2015 3:07:23 PMPlenty of months till comet drops. By then you'll have everything your little heart desires upgraded by then. It's literally week 2 since DLC drop. What did you want to do, drop rate like blue engrams?? If you had it your way. This forum would be full of people complaining they have nothing to do because they upgraded everything. Love people's, give me a handout mentality because they don't want to work for anything. It's a joke.
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Bump!!!
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That's easily exploitable though
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*bump*
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I agree pretty solidly on this, what bungie should of done is as long as you do the nightfall your guaranteed a etheric light drop [b]as well as[/b] an exotic or legendary weapon, but oh well I guess.
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I agree pretty solidly on this, what bungie should of done is as long as you do the nightfall your guaranteed a etheric light drop [b]as well as[/b] an exotic or legendary weapon, but oh well I guess.
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Assuming you have no life and can sit in front of the TV all week doing latency banner..you could get 6 etheric light. I know I am excited. I might be able to get a fair shot with a 34 in the trials. Oh wait I still need a group 7 times. Oh wait... I can't sit in front of the TV all day either. Well thought out expansion bungie. Well thought out.
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I actually agree with this since its only 3 a week