looking back most of the crucible changes bungie made over time are probably to blame for the disgusting nature that is the current PVP. lets get down to business with this, PVP is broken, destroyed, ruined and its all our fault. well most of us.....and bungie's there was a time when balance was met around every corners and weapons of all kinds worked, that is until people discovered exotic "variants" and broken perk mechanics. this mess was created by the few but also the many who felt entitled to have their specific weapon put on a throne, people wanted to win every gun fight and hated to be killed themselves, so what did they do they artificially blew up the potential of weapons that were fine and forgot about the real problematic ones. there is a reason People are leaving destiny and it's not what you think it is, its the lack of communication bungie has with people who actually wanted to help each other as well as help destiny repair its game, the communication breakdown is a simple answer from bungie [i][b][u]"Were listening"[/u][/b][/i] this simplistic answer leads most people to think they are listening but in reality questions need to be asked, who are they listening too? was this something minor that did not need adjustment? are the really listening? this fine line of give and take is being crossed, and it is annoyingly prudent. have they asked us questions, have they asked our opinion, no they haven't the reason, because bungie fears the community. its more of a fear from the Trolls and ignorant people who like to cause destruction and chaos in the community, but this is no excuse. for us to have such a destructive environment for PVP is disgusting for all the things people have noticed and told bungie about. As it stands there are only a few weapons that work and i wont spend the time talking about them. so what are we to do in this instance of give and take communication. sadly we have few choices, quit leave or call out i for one don't like the idea of quiting or leaving but i will call things when i see them and sadly this has been a problem for quite some time, i know there are some smart people in the comunity and understand what i am saying and i would like to hear your response to this. [u][b]things may change and things may be added but, change must not be at balances sacrifice.[/b][/u]