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4/25/2015 3:34:24 PM
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God Created Sin

According to Christianity, God is omnipotent. So then, when he created man, he knew that sin would also be created. He knew that Eve would eat the apple. Yet Christianity still believes that man created evil, and not God. That is incorrect. God, and God alone created evil. So, what kind of an all-loving God would create genocides, wars, hatred, and disease?
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  • There is no God end of conversation *gets up and walks away*

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  • There was no good or bad but thinking made it so.

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  • Edited by evoxazon: 4/29/2015 11:28:52 PM
    Lol

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  • I don't get why being atheist means you're going to hell when we don't believe in hell or heaven or gods. We solely believe that we are the remnants of stars that compacted together just right (definition of a phenomena) to make a single celled living being that evolved through the use of minerals to adapt to it's environment and when it reproduced they went separate ways and eventually down the line evolution decided it was more efficient for a large species to reproduce bisexually and find a way to fit into an environment. Why does believing that make you think we are going to hell?

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  • Wrong .... don't try and twist Gods word around and turn people the wrong way. That's a sin my friend .... God created lucifer who in turn like humans and Angels have free will. He chose like Adam and Eve to disobey God this creating sin. At first it might seem that if God created all things, then evil must have been created by God. However, evil is not a “thing” like a rock or electricity. You cannot have a jar of evil. Evil has no existence of its own; it is really the absence of good. For example, holes are real but they only exist in something else. We call the absence of dirt a hole, but it cannot be separated from the dirt. So when God created, it is true that all He created was good. One of the good things God made was creatures who had the freedom to choose good. In order to have a real choice, God had to allow there to be something besides good to choose. So, God allowed these free angels and humans to choose good or reject good (evil). When a bad relationship exists between two good things we call that evil, but it does not become a “thing” that required God to create it. Perhaps a further illustration will help. If a person is asked, “Does cold exist?” the answer would likely be “yes.” However, this is incorrect. Cold does not exist. Cold is the absence of heat. Similarly, darkness does not exist; it is the absence of light. Evil is the absence of good, or better, evil is the absence of God. God did not have to create evil, but rather only allow for the absence of good. God did not create evil, but He does allow evil. If God had not allowed for the possibility of evil, both mankind and angels would be serving God out of obligation, not choice. He did not want “robots” that simply did what He wanted them to do because of their “programming.” God allowed for the possibility of evil so that we could genuinely have a free will and choose whether or not we wanted to serve Him. As finite human beings, we can never fully understand an infinite God (Romans 11:33-34). Sometimes we think we understand why God is doing something, only to find out later that it was for a different purpose than we originally thought. God looks at things from a holy, eternal perspective. We look at things from a sinful, earthly, and temporal perspective. Why did God put man on earth knowing that Adam and Eve would sin and therefore bring evil, death, and suffering on all mankind? Why didn’t He just create us all and leave us in heaven where we would be perfect and without suffering? These questions cannot be adequately answered this side of eternity. What we can know is whatever God does is holy and perfect and ultimately will glorify Him. God allowed for the possibility of evil in order to give us a true choice in regards to whether we worship Him. God did not create evil, but He allowed it. If He had not allowed evil, we would be worshipping Him out of obligation, not by a choice of our own will.

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    • *rolls eyes and sighs* You still refuse to accept that He still gives us the right to choose.

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      • You can't have this discussion with religious ppl, believe me I've tried. The idea of God directly contradicts the idea that ppl have free will. But...muh faith, I guess.

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      • Nothing to do with topic but as I was responding to your last comment, the post was removed. So here scrub. Here I'll dumb it down for u. I think of shit while I'm taking a shit. Saw a post about u. coincidence? I think not. See how that worked? Never responded to any of your insecure hate posts, yet u think I'm obsessed. Says more about u than it does i. I have people obsessed over me in real life, such as my family, kids, friends etc. Maybe if u were done throwing out kids like dirty napkins then bragging about it, u'll get that obsession from real people rather than 12 yr Olds on a forum. Maybe you'll have more real life friends who respect u; and more importantly a family that accepts u. Cause if your online personality portrays your real one, I wouldn't want anything to do with u whether your my son, cousin, neighbor, friend, whatever. Did I hit the nail on the head, kid?

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        • Bad religious b8 m8 ur gonna cre8 a lot of h8 gr8 m8. I will still r8 ur not gr8 b8 8/8 but ur gonna get h8 from all the gr8 m8s who like to r8 b8 with h8[spoiler]please stop replying, just let the religious posts die.[/spoiler

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        • Omnipotent =/= omniscient. - Der

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          • What would be the point of living on Earth if it was identical to Heaven? We can't truly appreciate eternal bliss without experiencing pain. "wy dodnt he maek u know pain wid god power" Yeah, that would be [i]really[/i] satisfying for us.

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            • The kind that's made up by homophobic racist sexist men to get people to think like them

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            • Sometimes I feel like if God were real, We would be his little science project at God highschool science fair project.

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              • Fgt : confirmed

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              • God knew that sin would come into existence. If we never face any opposition in life then our personalities would forever remain stagnant and we would have no opportunity for growth, and would remain the same forever. The overcoming of sin allows men to become more like god, knowing the difference between good and evil and choosing the good of their own free will.

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                • In order to understand why God allowed Lucifer to have "free will" and fall, becoming Satan, you have to understand the purpose of this mortal existence we now endure/enjoy. We are placed here on this earth to prove ourselves- to be tested, to see if we will be obedient to God's laws and be worthy to return to His presence, or if we will rebel and follow Satan, thereby losing our eternal promise/potential. Yes, God created all of us, including Lucifer. Lucifer had his freedom to choose to follow God's plan or rebel. Lucifer chose to rebel and to take as many as he could with him. That is his self-decreed purpose- to try and encourage as many of us to fall from our truly divine potential as possible. Misery loves company. He is the ultimate example of misery because his own pride and desire for power caused him to rebel from God and lose his previous position of greatness (the morning star). Did God know he might rebel? Yes, but He did not predesign events such that Lucifer would fall. God just had a plan in place incase he did. That plan is designed to help us learn how to properly use our agency -to learn, grow, and not fall into deception. If we follow God's plan, as He's prescribed, following God's prophets and Jesus Christ, we are blessed and progress. If we make mistakes, then His plan provides a Savior who helps us change and answer the demands of justice through His sacrifice and atonement.

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                  • I honestly don't care

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                  • The same one that gave a little chit like you the chance to choose what kind of person you were going to be.

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                  • No. God created us and natural or common law, conscious. When one does something wrong, they transgress against the law, which is known as sin.

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                  • Hmm where's my shitstorm picture... Ah! Here it is!

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                  • Edited by travothekiller: 4/29/2015 7:39:43 AM
                    Destiny is the best platform game ever.

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                    • A god from the internet.

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                    • Well then explain why rainbows are so magical!!! Oooooh...!

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                    • becuz this isnt heaven bruh, he created this earth as a test to see who would accept him... bad things can happen dude

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                      • Not one of these posts again Alright I'll tell you It's called free will. We get to choose to be with him or to be evil and be with satin. Do your research next time

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                      • He created sin to punish us for disobeying Him. Christians dont say sin is man-made it's the way we sin that is man-made.

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