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Edited by Lost Sols: 12/7/2015 3:11:42 AM
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Ten Commandments for Acquiring Thorn (PvP section)

[b]A guide for those who don't PvP or don't think they can get 500 void kills points.[/b] 1) Equip all void weapons you can. If you don't have a primary, that's okay. Just be sure the other 2 are void. 2) If possible [b]only get void kills.[/b] If you have ammunition for Void weapons, but are using other weapons instead, those kills are essentially wasted and worthless to your cause. You're essentially giving away 5 points by kills not being void damage (verses losing 2 for dying). By all means keep yourself alive, but the risk/reward makes it worth risking sticking to your Void weapon if you can. 3) You don't have to have legendary or exotic void weapons, blue weapons work fine (outside of Iron Banner). That said, whatever level weapon you're using, fully level all its perks. Every advantage in The Crucible helps. It's amazing how many people roll unleveled weapons. 4) If you need to, camp, camp and camp some more. Rome wasn't built in a day and you're not going to get Thorn in one match. The important thing is to get void kills. If it means hiding, so be it. 5) Understand the scoring. +5 for void kills and -2 for deaths. Big picture this means that as long [b]as all your kills are void, a 0.40 k/d is break even for the match.[/b] Anything higher is positive points towards your goal. 6) You don't need to lead your team in kills. If you can average 10 kills and 10 deaths, that's 30 points a game and 16 games to complete. 7) Don't get discouraged by a bad game. Even if you go 10 - 20, you still just got 10 points towards your goal. This is also why it's so important to try to [b]only get void kills[/b]. 10 - 20 all Void is +10 points. 10 - 20 but only 4 kills were void, you just lost 20 points. 8) Don't get discouraged by the first few games. It may take a few games to start seeing progress, but if you play smart you'll be surprised how fast your score can rise. 15 - 4 will get you 57 points :) 9) Play Control. With zone objectives, it's much easier to predict where enemies will be throughout the match. Plus you can shadow teammates and glom kills (all is fair in love and war). Also with the new special ammo rules, control makes it a bit easier to get ammo without getting shot at if you stick in areas your team controls. 10) Have fun, it's a game.

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  • Don't forget to use praedyths revenge and swordbreaker

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  • I dont think you mentioned +2 for assists. Idk if it is confirmed but it felt as though assists counted when i played through.

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    • Edited by Deadmennwalking: 4/19/2015 8:34:13 AM
      I disagree with point 2. Having done the thorn bounty more than 10 times I think I am qualified to comment (and for the record I am crap at pvp). A non void kill is better than a death as it is = 0 rather than = -2 points. Stay alive when possible, camp / stay with other players, don't take on the 3/4 players running at you, back away and find an easier target. Get that heavy ammo, I repeat get that heavy ammo.

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    • I know you've edited your only get void kills point but I would like to say when I didn't have a void primary I would still use it when necessary. If you get caught at medium range and are using a void shotgun killing with a primary is better then dieing without a kill. Overall I agree with your point but I used a Suros before I got Epilogue and would always use it to try not to die if I wasn't close enough.

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      • 11. If possible, use defender or voidwalker. Every grenade and melee counts towards the total, even if not fully charged.

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      • Edited by Ziggerastica: 4/18/2015 9:07:56 PM
        11. thou shalt not teabag level 2's that thou killeth with the thorn.

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        • Edited by Bijin06: 4/19/2015 12:11:44 PM
          Thorn is by far the easiest bounty.... -_- And I suck at PvP. You can take a look if you want lol just take a 6 man fireteam and play that rumble or whatever it is called. Tell your friends/ fireteam that you need the void kills and be happy with your thorn. Thats it. EDIT: well a six man fire team seems impossibru. But a 3 bro fireteam is possible. I always learn something new |'D EDIT 2: SGA is the easiest bounty, thx to jitsudave for remembering me about that one weapon, I never use lol Thorn is still easy, when you have help :)

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          • You forgot # 11) Get 5 of your buddies who live close together and then GLITCH skirmish for 30 mins! This is the most important one.

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            • Thanks for the tips been working on the thorn bounty for a couple of days I don't normal pop and being a hunter with no void specials ugh hope to get it done today

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              • Thanks for the tips, I may give it another try. Completely forgot to do during the last ib, but, since i was running voidwalker, still went 107/500 using no void guns at all... Now I have a perfectly rolled jolder's hammer and a decent blue fusion with accelerated coils... If i could just get a woc... XD

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                • Edited by Amadeus1613: 4/19/2015 12:10:15 PM
                  Just finished my second Thorn bounty today. Soloed everything including Xyor the Unwed. All in all slightly over 2 hours to complete (PVP part took 6 games). Setup: Voidwalker, WC, Praedyth's Revenge/Swordbreaker and Truth.

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                • It was easy with Void damage "the comedian"

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                • It's a lot harder with the special ammo nerfs, if you have a good void LMG eg corrective measure try to get heavy every game and try not to die while using it, if you are a warlock or titan use your void subclass as ability kills will count towards killz

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                • I kinda disagree with number 2, but I see your meaning behind it. Yes, I agree that a void kill is always going to be preferred (duh?), but after a while of playing PvP you just know when you're going to round a corner and your void shotgun isn't going to give you the range you need. At that point, suck it up, pull out your primary and accept the neutral kill instead of taking the death. But being as this is a guide for inexperienced PvPers, I guess that takes away from my point a bit. Also, if I may suggest an addition to the list... MGs, not Rockets. Example: Corrective Measure with field scout. 150 rounds when you get a fresh heavy box. At 10 rounds per kill (actually more like 5, don't remember exact numbers but being realistic), if you're careful and conservative then that is 15 void kills without a death. 75 points toward your goal in one life.

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                  • I have done the Thorn bounty tree times. Its the only one I actually enjoy doing.

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                  • Just did this again today. It sucks but could be worse. Took like 12 games.

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                  • Some people unfortunately only have one character (like me) and even more unfortunate is when your only character is a hunter (like me). Needless to say I spent an entire day trying this friggin bounty. My advice is do what I did, get a void shotty and keep reloading the match until you get one like The Anomaly where there's lots of hallways a rooms and such, which will be shotgun heaven. DO NOT okay Shores of Time or whatever its called, the one with the rotating half circle things near the middle of the map. There's a serious green box drought on that map so don't even play it you'll only lose points or break even if your lucky

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                  • 1- Use Void guns 2- Play Control 3- Camp

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                    • I did it with only predyths revenge, it took me 1 hour and 30 minutes

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                    • Or you could just have a plug 1 like mine. Check my hunter.

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                      • Edited by Negative: 4/19/2015 5:26:26 AM
                        Lol, you can get in in one round if you are one of those 50-0 guys. Edit: I can't do math today.

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                        • And do it during iron banner. Regular crucible is empty

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                          • Just got another duplicate set of exotic bounties so when HoW comes, already finished thorn ed any advice for Pocket infinity?

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                            • Roll with a warlock. Always use a void primary. running Secondary and heavy is possible (I did it and I'm not very good), but as an experiment I went in with word of crota and did a few games. It would have been a lot quicker. Lol.

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                              • I did it as a 23 with my only void weapon being an uncommon sniper. People that are 32's complain about it being hard!

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