The origins of the Red Death date sometime before the dawn of the city age. The future war cult had some sort of machine that could give a guardian the ability to see the future, one of the guardians ended up going mad and was cast out from his faction. He became very very angry with what his own faction had done to him. Now his anger and rage is now mixed with his madness, yea that's a pretty good combination....Anyways, one day the mad guardian crossed paths with a guardian patrol. One of the guardians was wielding the Suros regime, out of anger and rage, the mad guardian killed the patrol and took the Suros regime off of a fallen guardian's body. Now here's where the inferences come in, obviously the mad guardian has hacked the optics, probably cannabolized the smart matter, and might've taken the knife on the end off of a fallen guardian. Now, something I wanna know is what class was he? I personally think he's a hunter because of the bayonet on the end, now I know for a fact that the knife doesn't have the same model as a Hunter's knife, but I believe that back then Hunter's had there different styles of knives and they always are looking for the sharpest blade, I believe that the "Hunter" that created the Red Death found the perfect blade. Now there is evidence to show that the creator might've been a warlock considering the fact that warlocks are always usually the ones to go mad. But evidence for the creator to be a Titan? Idk. I don't see or know any evidence leading to the creator being a Titan. What do you guys think on what class created the Red Death? Now I know that most of my assumptions came from Myelin, but I have mad respect for the guy and I agree with what he had to say on the origins of the Red Death. Oh yeah, who thinks the Red Death needs a buff, I obviously want it to have a buff.

So if he finished it, then red death would've been OP as shit?

Or you know the healing thing is a game mechanic to make a exotic and not a physical thing within that word.....js

You forgot Red Spectre and the fact that Red Death looks like an Auto Rifle

But... How can the Red Death be a prototype when Red Spectre is a prototype of Red Death? Red Death is the COMPLETE version of the gun.

...how is the red death model remotely similar to suros's? Also, just because it can heal you on a kill doesn't mean it's made of smart matter.

Personally I believe that the "smart matter" mentioned is already synthetic..? And that because of the complicated systems required to create the gun itself, not the healing factor, that is what was used. Considering an enormous amount of the technology from the Golden Age was lost, I believe that the resources were limited and few of the weapons could be made because of it. Nothing crazy. It is just a high quality, expensive, exotic gun.

The vanguard urges it to be destroyed on site... Whilst xur sold it not 20 feet away from the vanguard table........ Classic.

This is all BS, we know the real origin of red death. The bitching and nagging of a programers wife intensified while on her period so he named the rifle "red death" and just as his wife, it sucks the living crap out of anyone.

Dapper Gentleman

This isn't lore it's theory

Just an update because someone caused me to look at this clock at the new suros. It has almost the same exact color scheme.

Uh, did you just say that the "frames are essentially the same" are you blind bro?