I love the crucible I love the raids too. Half the time. The other half I just find them tedious. But I need to do them for my chances at exotics, high level gear, and good weapons. However if pvp was set up to be equally as rewarding as the raids (not in terms of the same gear but equal gear), I would probably spend 90% of my time in the crucible. The rush I get from going up against other guardians just can't be matched for me in pve. Here's some ideas to make end game pvp possible for players like myself - Some form of ranking system - Vanity items attached to achievements in the crucible. This alone could be so easy to implement, would not upset game balance, and would give crucible players unique items to chase. - Crucible gear that is on par with raid gear and weapons in terms of light and attack. (Not just iron banner gear). Maybe these pieces of gear could be attached to long term pvp bounties in a similar fashion to exotic bounties like Thorn - Daily, Weekly, and Monthly Crucible missions or events that reward exotics or legendaries upon completion - More game mode variety. - Custom Games - Community generated pvp content available to all players - Faction "Champion" bounties. Given out by faction vendors, these bounties require you to complete tasks in the crucible wearing your faction item. Awards high level faction gear and unique faction vanity items. Destiny is a loot game. Therefore, while pvp can be played just for fun, it needs to be equally as rewarding as pve in terms of loot. Keep up the good work Bungie. The Crucible is a great start, please make it amazing.