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Edited by StanleyHalas:
2/26/2015 1:32:42 AM
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Are auto rifles now useless in PVP?
i've only played a little bit since the update so i can't say definitively if they're now the basement dwelling weapon type, but they were already seriously lacking. Before the patch it was all handcannons (TLW, hawkmoon and thorn being the best three guns to use in PVP), and now after further nerfing auto rifles/fusions/shotguns it seems like hand cannons are going to be the only guns worth using.
I haven't used a pulse rifle yet since the update, if anyone has and can speak to their effectiveness i would appreciate it. i'm not going to be on again for a few days to test it out any further.
EDIT: No consensus so far, not even close. A lot of people think the update had no real effect. But a lot of people think it had a big impact.
I feel it had a big impact. Hand cannons weren't really impacted and still reign supreme. Pulse rifles are now improved and can potentially kill with two bursts(depending on accuracy and the rifles stats) and the auto rifles time to kill is much worse. If feels to me like you're forced to either use a sub par gun, or use a hand cannon.
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I really like Autos for the versatility and I decided to test out the nerf today myself. I think before this latest patch I felt I could compete with most In a 1 v 1 situation. The autos felt balanced. I use For the People and usually do pretty well. After playing a few hours of pvp I can honestly say now its a struggle to stay in the top 3. The nerf really hurt. It was a little too much. Its basically made AR's completely pointless in certain firefights. Especially in firefights where they SHOULD excel. Nerfing the range slightly would've been fine but that damage is very noticeable and the nerf to damage was too much. That one or two bullets mean a lot espeacially when it takes 2 shots to die from a goddamn handcannon. Bungie pretty much wants the Crucible played the way they want which means handcannons and pulse rifles only. I used to be able to go on streaks with this weapon at least. Now Im not so sure. They should've buffed Pulse rifles and left AR's alone aside from the slight range nerf. The damage on top of that really screwed AR's. Its like Bungie is saying "Ya know that weapon you really like using, We are gonna nerf it til its useless. If its popular we are gonna ruin it for you. Now USE the weapons we want you to use" Its like a bunch of hipsters.
