So here is what a few of my friends and I have came up with... The Sniper Rifle "Praedyth's Revenge" states "Praedyth's fall isn't over... because it hasnt happened yet... and it will happen again" This to me means that Praedyth's fall isn't over (as stated already) but it also says it hasnt happened yet. So what I could conclude from this is that Praedyth isnt dead but is stuck in time and but his fall could happen. Then you have the Pulse Rifle "Praedyth's Timepiece" that states ""He skipped like a stone on time's ocean. This is whats left." - Unknown" I couldn't really make anything of this and I wish I could. Then you have the "Praetorian Foil" which states "Erase the Future" and this makes me think that in order to find Praedyth you cannot go into the future or be in the future you either have to be in the past or present. Then the "Vex Mythoclast" which states "...a casual loop within the weapon's mechanism, suggesting that a firing process somehow blinds space and time into..." This makes me think in order to find Praedyth you need the Vex to stop space and time to go through a vex timegate and explore/ search for Praedyth. It wouldn't make since though... Why would you make a secret loot or location in a raid when you need to have one of the rares guns in the game to get to? But then again if it is supposedly the "big loot" that no one has found then why make it easy to get too? If it is true that there is still unfound loot in VOG then why hasn't anyone found it yet? I mean people have found whys to get into all of the House of Wolves DLC areas except for the Raid which is going to be on the Reef and within the matter of a week of the game being out all the ghosts in the game were already found... Either Bungie is trolling us all leading us all to believe there is more loot that is unfound for people to have for play time on the game.... Or (My Theory Behind the hidden loot) I have three ideas for people to look for the loot because I cannot because I do not have the vex but here they are. 1) After killing Atheon you have anywhere between 5-10 minutes before you get sent to orbit. Meaning that you have enough time to look around and do other things. But I was reading a post the other day stating that someone had entered the portals and didn't get Marked by the Void but int the other portal they did... They didn't say if they had the vex or not. But I am lead to believe that one portal is the past and one is the future. So if you run in the past portal with the vex I wonder if you get Marked or not. But I think that the "big loot" is you finding either Praedyth alive, dead, or turned into a vex. When you get to him and he is turned into a vex I wonder if you fight him like a side boss and he drops extra loot (The loot unfound) or if there is something you get off of him like a dead ghosts or something and turn in to the speaker for a reward. 2) Another Theory of mine is that the weapons put together in the right order make some kine of riddle and in order to find the "big loot" or Praedyth you have to solve the riddle and figure out how to find him from there. 3) The last Theory of mine is some how after killing Atheon there is someway to open the door that you originally entered to fight the Gatekeeper and go to the vex timegate and it be open and go through there to find the loot. Because if you notice after killing Atheon both Mars and Venus portals open and you can enter both portals but you get Marked by the Void... So I wonder if you send two people through the portals (One on Mars and one on Venus) and go stand infront of the door and have someone outside standing infront of the main door so that way you have the all the doors covered and standing infront of them (I havent got to try this theory yet or any of them) Then once every one infront of the door you have the Past, Present, and Future and if the door opens you will be in between the Past and Furture. So then leading from that I wonder the Vex timegate will be open for everybody and you can get through it and it take you to either Earth or Moon ( The only two locations not used in the Raid because you get sent to Mars and Venus during the Atheon fight). Then from there I think that you will find the "big loot" or Praedyth and get somekind of loot from it. If anyone test these Theorys please post a video or a reply saying if they worked or not. I am really curious about this but I love things like this that you have to think to get to. But if Bungie is just trolling us atleast we had fun trying all the different Theorys and Ideas people have had. [b]EDIT #1: CAUGHT YOU BUNGIE! I think one of my friends just figured out why Bungie and DeeJ have been keeping so low about it... After House of Wolves and Comet DLC's come out there is a Vex DLC coming out.... Called "Vex Void" I bet the reason they havent said anything or given any hints is because the "Unfound loot" Will not be added until the 4th DLC in the game. (Probably not coming out for a while) But they are hinting at it for us to play more for us to find nothing... Thank You Bungie for Trolling us but yet not at the same time! (Could be wrong but this is the only solution to why after 6 months of this game being out no one has found it or any hints have been given out by bungie!) Edit #2: To all the people saying that there isn't any extra loot in the VoG READ Edit #1.... If there is supposed to be it most likely will not be entered in the VoG until Vex Void is released.[/b]