Yes. For 40 bucks (retail price) or 2/3's the cost of an entire game, we received maybe 1/3 of a game. TTK will be better, but it won't be game changing like people are hoping. You are still destined to be running the same vanilla strikes for yet another year (but a little less frequently).

yes/no.. depends on the aspect.. TDB: nice new environment with the raid, pretty downer when it comes to length and difficulty.. and easy exploitable. (still) overall story: nonexistent, no cutscenes, no interaction with the game world, no social features as groupfinder or else.. basically a new go there shoot this.. mindless.. sadly.. weapons are just reskins of old ones no new models no new ideas.. tha base "feeling setting" totally missed.. none of the "events" on earth felt anything like an "invasion".. the "swords of crota were just "five stupid guys from abroad bringing an knife to a gunfight" who get killed in a drive by shooting of locals. (see mass effect end scene for proper "invasion feeling" they should have altered the entire cosmodrome with a hive theme.. HoW: a LITTLE bit more narrative, but still far away from a story, no cutscenes, no interaction with the game world, No raid, so basically no new places or locations hat havent been on disc for a looong time.. Endgame dissappointngly boring and VERY unrewarding.. weapons a [b]desaster[/b] (apart from the ToO adept weapons) "Raid" (semi-hordemode PoE) is tedious, and has WAY to little variation (i was expecting about 50 different bosses, not a handfull) non dynamic level design its always the same race themes area and as soon as you figured out the spawn points its basically a slaughter in a prison , on prisoners,, highly questionable.. without any explanation.. "Story" mode: no explanation what why where when , just go there kill all. again. 0/10 for narration.. the new way bungie ried to sell us, FAILED! new upgrade path for weapons wasnt the brightest idea, now eveyone uses the vanilla weapons since they are superior to any dlc weapon..(until BH but this getting nerfed to meaninglessness) see whats left over from the two DLC.. TDB: -Raid playable but not a BIG deal just another long Strike. but enjoyable and a doable challenge to solo players.. - Black Hammer - Hunger of Crota for non Gally owners - word of Crota for Void damage PoE: - PoE34 for Etheric light until it starts to stockpile AGAIN.. (didnt you learn from the vanguard recommendations? its 1:1 the same -.-) - ToO is the best addition to HoW (and thats from a non PvP guy!) but way too often , already wears out.. and its lacking matchmaking like hell.. okay so its basically ToO and nothing else since ALL the PoE QW weapons are useless and the Prison is not worth the time spend.. so all in all i would say this would be max 20$ in total.. and could have been in game from the beginning.. so maybe 50% value worth..

For the price? Yes.

Y'all are never happy. This DLC was just fine. New social space, ToO, PoE, new bounties, and we can now ascend our old weapons. Fxck outta here with "it's a disappointment" bullshit.

Why don't you all stop your bitching and leave and find another game if you are soooo disappointed. Oh I'm soooooo disappointed. Fuk off. We don't need you in the community if you hate this game so much

I think I'm the only one who liked TDB more than HoW. I think I'm just nostalgic? Had a lot of good raids with my clan back in TDB. Did crota and VOG a lot.

The dark below wasn't a disappointment to me just because it has a raid HoW- let's just act like that didn't happen

This is like saying what terd is more shiny lmfao

Too much money for 10 missions and some repetitive quests. Well 20 if you combine them, so I would have 20 for both expansions together but not 20 for each. I want to pre-order TTK but I don't want to buy it right away.

TDB was an undeniable disappointment. It was $20 for a raid, a couple of missions (that took 45 minutes, collectively), and a vendor. HoW however, in my eyes, a general success. It brung a lore to the game I wasn't aware of. The war stories of the reef wars are quite interesting. Etheric light were the exact thing we, as a community, asked for. We can wear our ugly VoG gear and still be level 34! ToO was/is the best thing to happen to Destiny since the VoG. And will only get better with the weapon balancing update. The reef social space is good, although we know atleast part of it was in the original game. Reforging is great, another thing we as a community asked for. More vault space was introduced. The only negative thing anyone can say about HoW is that PoE was a major disappointment. The weapons, the activities, enemies, bosses, (and in my opinion the elder's cipher bounties) are all bad. PoE was bad, but bearable. But since the rest of the DLC was good, the DLC was good. So it's obvious to see that TDB was bad. But the HoW was overall good and well. And if HoW had a raid, there couldn't be a way to say it was bad.

I really like HOW. Some of the weapons are bit crappy, like those you buy from Variks or the Queens gear, but I like some of the exotic Armour, weapons, and POE is a blast. I do not have TDB, it is way over priced, IMO.