[quote] The Beta isnt about testing the game, its about marketing it, and marketing Play Station.[/quote] That's where I stopped reading. Up to that point, I had hoped it would get better, but when I read that sentence I realized that I was reading something written by someone with the [i]current[/i] emotional equivalent of a two-year-old. [i]The entire point of a beta is bug testing.[/i] Think for a little bit instead of immediately going for the knee-jerk reaction. Every new bit of info from Bungie brings all the whiners in the Xbox crowd out of the woodworks and makes the community as a whole look bad. "u abandund usssssss!!!! I HAET U!!!!! BUGNE U SUK U DUN LIEK USSSS!!! PS DUN DESURV U!!!!" Get. Over. It. It was a smart business decision by ACTIVISION. Learn to cope with disappointment or you'll never make it in life. That is all.

You have no one to blame for deals like this ever getting done but Microsoft. They started all this crap with buying exclusivity for DLC, timed exlcusives, etc.., because their in-house first party studios suck so they needed 3rd party titles to sway buyers into buying the 360 (Halo games excluded. They were all great). This all started with GTA IV, then spread to COD, et al. During the days of the PS3 Sony wouldn't play ball. Now that they are people have a problem with it. I personally don't care for these exclusive deals myself. I don't truly believe that any real PS fan does, especially after what we went through last gen. If they do they are seriously jaded and need some help. I just call BS when I see it. Now that all you Xbox fans are having to deal with just a taste of what us PS gamers went through last gen, SONY is more of the devil than they already were to you and nothing is fair. You have been the haves for so long that you are spoiled and can't get a grip and come to terms with being the have-nots. You also have no one to blame but Microsoft for Xbox gamers being the have-nots after 2013's E3 debacle and message. They have had to go back on everything they said; always online, no used games, must have Kinect, and so on. Not to mention that Microsoft is not a hardware manufacturer and they shipped an over-priced, under-powered machine. Numerous websites with first-hand knowledge of how the cloud works tried to get you to see that the "Cloud" was a bunch of BS, but you bought all of MS's corporate smoke blown up your asses like it was the word of God. If you notice the "Power Of the Cloud" was not mentioned once during this year's E3. I know that Microsoft came in and bought Bungie and paid the costs for the Halo games, but if not for Bungie's creativity in making a kick-ass game and ground-breaking networking expertise (the entire backbone of Live is borrowed from Bungie and Halo), there never would have been an Xbox 360 or Xbox Live. The original Xbox would have failed more than it did anyway and Microsoft would not still be in the console business without Bungie. The Halo games are soooo good that people put up with the horribly made original 360 to the point that most people went through between 2 -4 consoles because of the RROD (points once again to MS being a software, not hardware company) just to play Halo. My point is Bungie and Halo made the Xbox brand what it is, not the other way around. Did you buy an Xbox or Xbox 360 because of Halo or the other way around? If you bought an Xbox or 360 because of Halo, Bungie does not owe you nor Microsoft anything. Especially when Microsoft is about to milk the hell out Bungie's blood, sweat, and tears (Halo's 1-3) and Bungie won't see a dime in royalties from the Master Chief Collection. Your anger and frustration are misguided with everyone you are trying to blame for your supposed slight. It is not the fault of Bungie, SONY, nor Activision. The blame lies 100% with Microsoft!!! Well, guess what, life isn't fair. It never has been and never will be. You just got to learn to let it go. I am as passionate as anyone about video games but they are just that; Games. They are not life and death or the destroyer of self esteem that you guys are making this Activision / SONY / Bungie partnership out to be. If any of this has destroyed any of your self esteem, you seriously need to step away from gaming and re-evaluate your lives and values.

It's annoying

Wow shut you whining ass up. You guys had years of halo now that they give us just a little extra you think they hate you. You are entitled to nothing but you opinion.

[i]"W O W brah...just W O W. Bungie totally hates us MS fans...all we wanted was to watch Direct TV while our Kinect watched us and you screw us like dis? I buy'd my xbox because It had teh best clioud gaming and average resolution but it had a big VCR look and was very hot but dis? I liked dat I wasnt allowed to share my games on my console! who need used games anyway!! dats why i bought it cose MS is the best and always will be."[/i] [b]-Said No one ever[/b]

I wish Halo 5 and Destiny had the same release dates ! So we could show them how a TRUE fan base sell games

lol chill bro

Since we're talking about exclusivity, hows about we have universal release dates for all films and games instead of this whole US first bullcrap. Non-regional specfic apps (cant get hulu or HBO in UK). Hows about we pay the same price for the console? It was at least $150 more in UK than US on launch. Hows about E3 Comes to the uk. It won't happen, some things get priority, that is the way of the world

[quote] Let me put this into a metaphor for you: Say there are only 3 types of people in the world, and they each wear a different color shirt. One type wears green, the other wears blue, and the last type wears both (just follow along, the last one doesn't actually matter too much, as they get the best of both worlds, they just spend a LOT of extra money on both styles of shirts). Now, it doesn't really matter who's who, as it's just a clothing choice. However, say you work for a restaurant that started out selling food to everyone, but the restaurant got bought out by a company that said "You will no longer sell food to those who wear blue shirts, only to those who wear green." After the transition, you restaurant comes up with a recipe that ends up being one of the best ever created. Everyone wearing green shirts is going to be ecstatic, while those wearing blue won't be able to enjoy it. Fast forward a 10 years, and your restaurant new recipe has been better than anyone could have ever dreamed about. Now, your managers find a way to get control back in their own restaurant, and leave the former owners behind. They still have the makings of that original recipe, but they want to make it better and different, something new. Remember, this is a business after all, and you know those who have eaten with you before (green shirts) will continue to eat at the restaurant. But how do you draw in the blue shirt wearers who have never had a taste of the food? You offer free samples. Put a big sign out front that says "Welcome all those who wear blue! Come try our new menu, free sample included, and you can even try our new recipe first!" It's a good business tactic. Bring in new customers and offer them an incentive. Those who have eaten at your restaurant before know how good the food can be, and most will stick with it. Others may switch shirts just to get a taste of the new food first, but in the end, everyone makes out the same. TL:DR Moral of the story: Dude, chill. We all get it in the end. [spoiler]I'm going to copy and paste this into every post I see about people complaining that PS is getting shit earlier than XB. I've been a 'green shirt' guy much more so than a 'blue shirt', and i'm actually happy Bungie is welcoming their potential new fan base with open arms, as do I.[/spoiler] [/quote]

Yeah they get early access to the Beta and Exclusive Alpha and other stuff... We had Halo.

It's a business agreement between Activision and Sony. Bungie has nothing to do with it.

What's weird is that at the end of the Microsoft conference they said something like "We will make the Xbox One the best place to play all these new and exciting game like-" and then he started mentioning a few. But one of them was Destiny. Is Bungie hiding some Xbox exclusive content?

I'm starting to think that the best thing those who want equal access to the Destiny alpha/beta can do, is [b]ignore the beta altogether[/b]. Cause what happens if the game is released and it is [i]buggy[/i]? Bad reviews most likely. That's how you show that you care, that's how you make a statement. But most Xbox owners who want equal alpha/beta access probably don't care enough to sacrifice the opportunity to play the beta at all...

Thats why I haven't preordered it, sure i'll miss out on some extras but i dont want to pay for a beta. Im not too fussed about bonus content after all it's not what you have, it's who's using it.