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3/4/2015 1:28:13 PM
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U.S. Israeli relationships breaking down, edging closer to WWIII

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  • Edited by The Fallen Zyzz: 3/5/2015 4:01:22 AM
    [quote]n[i]a[/i]zi-hunter Elie Wiezel[/quote] I wasn't aware that "n[i]a[/i]zi-hunters" were a thing.

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    • Infowars is crap, didn't even click the link, but the administration has been a toolbag towards Israel. We should support them completely as an ally.

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    • This thread is like a tumour

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      • Wait, what? How does two countries disagreeing lead us to WWIII?

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        • Edited by Geth: 3/5/2015 3:50:50 AM
          I don't think you saw his speech. Everyone literally applauded it over and over again.

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          • It's not a world war if two missiles end it.

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          • I disagree, and I think the author sounds a little biased. Also, notice how every 5 sentences he's mentioning how we are "letting Iran build nukes," but he never explicated the language in the proposal so that the reader can decide for themselves. Not citing an agreement you are criticizing is a huge red flag.

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            • I remember writing an essay of why Palestine derserves the land

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            • I agree that the relationship between us is not as close as before, but the site your pulling "info" from is an extreme conservative source. Always look for neutral sources, and look for the opposite opinion as well so you understand both sides. You'll get the info that supports both sides and be able to cut out the bullshit rhetoric to see what's actually happening and form your own opinion.

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              • Let Iran and Israel blow each other up. They'll be doing the rest of the world a favor.

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              • The point I would take away from the situation is that Israel is one of our closest allies, they were the first to respond to 9/11, and have been aiding us for years. Yet, we treat Israel, in the relations department at least, worse than some of our enemies. Is this how we behave towards our friends?

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                • Southeast Asian mentality: "the U.S. wants to protect us? Fûck that! I love being dehumanized, tortured, and having the fear of getting shot everyday by extremist groups when I step outside my home. I mean, they're only one of the biggest and best militaries in the world, why would I want them to protect my country? Besides, I hate their culture, and that is totally enough to have a good reason to launch attacks on the United States."

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                  • Thanks obama

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                  • Edited by DB5: 3/4/2015 10:00:40 PM
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                    Well for one, regarding Iran: the country is lawfully allowed to have a peaceful nuclear program, per the NPT (let's not forget that Israel, which has nukes, is not party to the NPT). Iran has consistently enriched uranium right up to the legal line and not gone beyond it. It knows that if it gets a nuke, it has to worry about Saudi getting one. What it will do instead is just decrease the breakout time needed for it to speed manufacture one, but not go further. That in and of itself is a deterrent. I do feel compelled to point out that SL Khamenei issued a fatwa against nukes and given his Islamic credentials (vis a vis Ayatollah Sistani, for example) the last thing he wants to do is undermine his credibility by pursuing that which he has decreed a fatwa against. Mr. Netanyahu talked about Iran playing "hide and cheat" with inspectors...he should truly consider the irony of him making that statement before making such comments. Going over to the US-Israel issue, InfoWars is blowing the issue out of proportion (what a shocker). Differences between leadership are one thing. Chances are, leaders of all countries -- even allies -- will butt heads every so often. For example, US and France were at odds for a while following the 2003 invasion of Iraq, but France was firmly behind potential US strikes in Syria in 2013. The various US governmental institutions with foreign involvement (ie military) still maintain close connections with Israel, and US public generally likes Israel over other regional countries. US sometimes grumbles about sending Israel billions in aid annually but continues to do it. In nearly all of the statements by those who did not attend Mr. Netanyahu's speech, the various Reps and Senators made very clear they support Israel, which of course plays into electability. The fact that supporting Israel is almost a prerequisite for serving as an elected official should speak volumes about the general US opinion of Israel. Also, Israel bombing Iran, or the US and Israel bombing Iran, is just about the dumbest thing that they could do. Who knows if it would even destroy facilities like Fordow and the political fallout would see both the US and Israel ostracized and discredited. Netanyahu may not want to admit it, but a nuclear deal is in his country's best interests.

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                  • I definitely do NOT want to fight those Israeli commandos.

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                    • Been hearing the same shit for the last 5 years, I'll believe it when I see it.

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                      • Let's get ready to rumble.

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                      • >infowars Vexplz

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                        • I think it's appropriate to say... Thanks Obama.

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                          • The guy who made the article sounds like a ultra-pro Israel person.

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                            • Well, -blam!-

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                            • USA is making Israel stand on its feet, if USA breaks with Israel, it will become nothing.

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                            • YAYYY NO SCHOOL!!!!

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