Say that to the dozens of people with plausible theories.

He crashed and melted to a shank. Boom. Plausible explanation.

No. Sorry. That was not shown IN the game, let alone separated off and written about in a tiny book to slog for. Your explanation means nothing.

[quote]No. Sorry. That was not shown IN the game, let alone separated off and written about in a tiny book to slog for. Your explanation means nothing.[/quote] You asked for a plausible explanation, not a scene in game showing how it happened. I provided one. Taniks is mostly machine, so when we crashed the Clovis Bray Space Station it's likely that he just kind of melted to some wreckage and just made the best of it. Also, anyone that reads the lore could have seen this coming.

Then I should have been more specific to account for the fact that I am speaking to Destiny fans. My bad. I asked for a plausible explanation from THEM, Bungo, due to the fact that nothing from the sequence of events of the Descent encounter to the Abomination encounter showed anything leading to Taniks altering his body to appear the way it does from when the Morning Star crashed to when we find him buried under a pile of wreckage shortly after. Your explanation means nothing because none of what you said is actually shown IN the game, therefore making it non-objective information, so it doesn't matter. The reason I ask for an explanation is because asking Bungo to add a scene or an animation to account for their failure of proper execution here is a fool's dream. I didn't ask for one because I already know they won't do that (as in, doing anything correctly). An explanation from them, while it wouldn't completely repair their blatant mistake, would be more welcome than anything else. I do read the lore. I have read the lore. I already knew and know what Taniks's schtick is. Still doesn't at all excuse the lackluster execution here. Not even just for the Descent-to-Abomination thing, but also for the fact that Taniks is nowhere at all a huge part of any of Beyond Shite's shoddy campaign. But I do commend Bungo for knowing exactly what to do to further string along the deluded. Of course bringing back Taniks all of a sudden was the move they'd make, regardless of the actual quality. What are the deluded going to do? Hold them accountable? Heheheheheh.

We know taniks is part metal we also know that there is a shank and a nuclear core inside the station. When the ship crashes which we see happen Taniks with the combo of heat,radiation and impending death fuses his legs to the shank to avoid the SPLAT. Makes sense from a lore perspective and game perspective. His name changes to taniks the abomination because he is abomination of nature part shank and part taniks. The reason taniks can -blam!- around with the buffs can be explained by the nuclear core he fused with as well as the shank tech. The only reason Taniks gets defeated is because he cant fully controll the shank he just fused with. As shown when the SHANK moves to any side of the arena and not Taniks. Clearly emphesizing how little controll he has over his movement. Does this help?

[quote]We know taniks is part metal[/quote] Yes. [quote]we also know that there is a shank[/quote] No. The game does not give any indication of where it came from at all. [quote]and a nuclear core inside the station.[/quote] Too vague. Are you talking about the cores Guardians pick up? Because there are multiples, not just one. If you're implying the radiation has to with his sudden alteration, there is also no evidence to suggest that those were specifically what made all of that happen to Taniks. [quote]When the [station] crashes which we see happen[/quote] Yes. We see this happen. Your point? [quote]Taniks with the combo of heat,radiation and impending death fuses his legs to the shank to avoid the SPLAT.[/quote] No. The game itself does not present any information that that is how it happened. You cannot definitively confirm or deny that or use that as evidence. Sorry. [quote]Makes sense from a lore perspective[/quote] Lore has nothing to do with this. This is a sequence of events that plays out in the game itself as the raid is happening. Just because Taniks has a schtick of being an unkillable cyborg that is more machine than Eliksni in the lore does not excuse Bungo from not accurately showing how Taniks changed into what he did in mere seconds. [quote]and game perspective.[/quote] No. I am using the game perspective and I have already articulated below with that Milk guy why this is an objective flaw in execution. Or perhaps you're talking about a game [i]design[/i] perspective for some reason, to which I would say they more than likely made him float because Bungo did not want anyone using the Lament on him. Bungo balancing at its finest. Heh. And yet, I cannot confirm or deny that about the design, so I don't use it. Either way, the language and words you are using is very vague. It muddies everything up. Stop doing that. [quote]The reason taniks can -blam!- around with the buffs can be explained by the nuclear core he fused with as well as the shank tech. The only reason Taniks gets defeated is because he cant fully controll the shank he just fused with. As shown when the SHANK moves to any side of the arena and not Taniks. Clearly emphesizing how little controll he has over his movement.[/quote] All of this is absolutely nothing at all except your own version of how the events are playing out in your head. Meaningless non-objective conjecture. There is no concrete explanation or evidence within the game itself to back up any of what you're peddling here. [quote]Does this help?[/quote] Oh, it helped. Just not in the way you think or wanted.

And yes i can back up that tanniks isint in controll of the shank he rides. One the shank was added very shortly because of the crash, 2 taniks clearly isint trying to make the shank move around when it starts its mechanic to shoot the wheels. Three the shank has many wires and metal salvages sticking out although that dosent allways imply terrible mechanical issues in this case it helps prove my argument.

My b on the core i meant the main power core which we know to be there because something needs to fuel the station energy wise. If you bothered to listen to the cutscenes we know that the darkness statue on the station actually gives of energy which was harvested when found underground and then placed in the station. We knok w this to be true because when the eclipsed zone crashes it gives energy plus stasis recharge. As for your remarque on the lore not mattering in the game YES IT DOES the lore is the reason the raid is happening so its fair to reward the people who bother to read a bit. Your right about the shank however that's my bad.

[quote]Then I should have been more specific to account for the fact that I am speaking to Destiny fans. My bad.[/quote] You seem upset. [quote]I asked for a plausible explanation from THEM, Bungo, due to the fact that nothing from the sequence of events of the Descent encounter to the Abomination encounter showed anything leading to Taniks altering his body to appear the way it does from when the Morning Star crashed to when we find him buried under a pile of wreckage shortly after.[/quote] I mean, is it not obvious? Taniks was on the outside of the safe area (which wasn't even that safe considering that it knocked seven shades out of us) and had to salvage some parts to try and come and kill us, and given how he looked and his title he did a slapdash job of it, which fits considering we found him under a pile of trash. [quote]Your explanation means nothing because none of what you said is actually shown IN the game, therefore making it non-objective information, so it doesn't matter.[/quote] What part of what I said was wrong? Taniks crashed, salvaged parts and came to kill us. [quote]The reason I ask for an explanation is because asking Bungo to add a scene or an animation to account for their failure of proper execution here is a fool's dream.[/quote] Why make a scene showing something that should be obvious to anyone woth eyes? [quote]I didn't ask for one because I already know they won't do that (as in, doing anything correctly). An explanation from them, while it wouldn't completely repair their blatant mistake, would be more welcome than anything else.[/quote] It's so obvious that it shouldn't need explaining. [quote]I do read the lore. I have read the lore. I already knew and know what Taniks's schtick is. Still doesn't at all excuse the lackluster execution here. Not even just for the Descent-to-Abomination thing, but also for the fact that Taniks is nowhere at all a huge part of any of Beyond Shite's shoddy campaign.[/quote] He was featured briefly as part of the Dark Council if I'm not mistaken and when Eramis said "prepare the body, who did you think she was talking about? When I saw Taniks I instantly went "Oh, that makes sense." [quote]But I do commend Bungo for knowing exactly what to do to further string along the deluded. Of course bringing back Taniks all of a sudden was the move they'd make, regardless of the actual quality. What are the deluded going to do? Hold them accountable?[/quote] I didn't like Beyond Lights campaign, but I did like the deep lore of the Fallen and Clovis. I grill Bungie when I need to, I compliment Bungie when I need to.

[quote]You seem upset.[/quote] Irrelevant. [quote]I mean, is it not obvious? Taniks was on the outside of the safe area (which wasn't even that safe considering that it knocked seven shades out of us) and had to salvage some parts to try and come and kill us, and given how he looked and his title he did a slapdash job of it, which fits considering we found him under a pile of trash.[/quote] It doesn't matter how it played out to you in your own head. I am being objective here. It was not depicted in how but a few seconds he was able to alter himself like that in the game itself. That is a flaw in execution. [quote]What part of what I said was wrong? Taniks crashed, salvaged parts and came to kill us. [/quote] I did not say you were wrong or right. I said your explanation meant nothing. In that, it is worthless when looking at it from an objective standpoint, which is what I am doing. I am using the game as the source here and there is no flow of information present in the game that accurately depicts and/or communicates how he got from point A to point B while taking all the circumstances into account. You also just changed what you said as well. You said Taniks [i]"just kind of melted to some wreckage and just made the best of it."[/i] Is that the same thing as salvaging parts to you? Eh. Whatever. The game says nothing about it or how he was able to do it in a manner of seconds either way. Saying different words that mean different things does not change the matter. It is also distracting and makes your argument unclear. Please stop doing that. [quote]Why make a scene showing something that should be obvious to anyone with eyes?[/quote] I was using my eyes. That's how I know what is missing from this and what the issue is. The real question here is "why not?" They made an animation with Taniks and Atraks that precedes the Replication encounter. Why should they get a pass for inconsistent quality here? [quote]It's so obvious that it shouldn't need explaining.[/quote] No. It is only obvious to you because of how it is playing out in your own head. Based on the game itself, it is lacking proper execution here. There is no reason why they should not be explaining it. [quote]He was featured briefly as part of the Dark Council if I'm not mistaken[/quote] This was only in a poorly placed expository cutscene (which has Variks monologuing about information we already know at that point) that plays after your initial campaign run-through of the Glassway Strike. In it, Taniks is drawn standing behind Eramis with the rest of her main cronies two times, where he is not even mentioned by name at all. That is it. Describing it as "brief" is a massive understatement. If you even attempt to defend this blatant low-effort bare-minimum mediocre "character feature", save your energy. Although, it would be more hilarious if you tried. [quote]and when Eramis said "prepare the body, who did you think she was talking about? When I saw Taniks I instantly went "Oh, that makes sense."[/quote] I don't know who she was talking about. It could have been literally anybody at the whim of Bungo. A single line of dialogue from her about Taniks' body and then afterwards him suddenly showing up in a cutscene after a Strike is nowhere near enough build-up of tension and characterization. You also do not get any prior indication that he was involved with any of this Europa business at all. The single page about him in "The Once-Shipstealer" (that you can only get from a triumph after killing him in the raid) doesn't even spell anything out. Once again, nothing but the bare minimum, and the deluded making all the necessary excuses to defend it. Color me surprised. [quote]I didn't like Beyond Lights campaign, [/quote] Of course. It was objectively flawed, like all of them. [quote]but I did like the deep lore of the Fallen and Clovis.[/quote] Lore, no matter how well it is done, should not be the main delivery for any major events or important context in any story, just the supplement. This flaw persists even now and it likely will until this shitshow franchise dies. Even more unsurprising. [quote]I grill Bungie when I need to,[/quote] Doubt. [quote]I compliment Bungie when I need to.[/quote] And I'm very sure you [u]need[/u] to do that quite a lot from what I'm gathering. We're done here.

I don't think you know what objective means. I also think it's weird that you need your hand held for these story beats.