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Edited by michael: 6/19/2020 6:54:15 AM
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Pinnacle grinding is terrible (rant)

Currently the pinnacle grinding system is as follows; -Past 1050, pinnacle rewards are the only things that increase your level -Pinnacle rewards are split into +1s and +2s - +1s include the complete 4 crucible matches, 3 strikes using the element of the burn, and 3 gambit or gambit prime games milestones - +2s include the garden raid, the final bosses of the prophecy and pit of heresy dungeons, the flawless trials chest, and I THINK the 100k nightfall and weekly clan XP milestones although im not sure about the last two The problem is, the loot pools from the pinnacle activities are extremely skewed. The gambit, crucible, and strikes pinnacles are fine, they have large loot pools, but the real important pinnacles, the +2s, are very unforgiving. The raid specifically. The garden of salvation raid has a full set of armour, two kinetic weapons, zero heavy weapons, and FIVE ENERGY WEAPONS. Those energy weapons can drop throughout the whole raid too so it’s not even like you are guaranteed something else; The fusion is from the first encounter, shotgun and auto from the second, hand cannon from the third, and sniper from the fourth. You can do the entire raid and get ALL ENERGY WEAPONS, something that has happened to me before. Just now I did a garden of salvation and got the fusion, the bow, the shotgun, the pulse, and the bond. That was a lucky run, getting upgrades in 3 slots, and not going up a single power level. It was useless but it could’ve been even worse which is a problem. When the best source of pinnacle gear has such a ridiculously skewed loot pool it is just not fun grinding power at all. When you do all your pinnacles for the week on all your characters and go up two levels it just makes you not want to play at all. I feel like pinnacle grinding would be significantly better if there were ways to target the upgrade you needed, but the way it is now it is just so random that spending the hours it takes every week to do all of these chores just to get almost nothing is just not fun at all. I play the game to grind master nightfalls, do trials, do challenges that require light level. Having to do the OLD CONTENT for light level to do the NEW CONTENT is terrible and I feel like many can agree that grinding out all the pinnacles for the week is extremely unrewarding. Edit: Pleasantly surprised with the lack of people telling me it’s not that bad, that I’m asking for hand outs etc. Glad Im not the only one so frustrated by this system.
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  • Trash , I find that if you don't max your artifact power you will get better power level gear so what's the point in maxing artifact early trash

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    • The pinnacle grind is for the most part unnecessary. 10 additional points in power does not make a difference in the majority of activities as most are capped and capped at low levels. It’s in the game for those that don’t mind the somewhat unnecessary grind of it all.

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    • as garbage as crucible is, there should be bonus power on the pinnacle engram just for putting up with 4 matches.

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      • Couple days ago I got 4 1055 arms for my titan. I stopped caring about the grind afterwards.

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      • Power needs to not be as important as it is. And it shouldn't be the main focus. It's hard enough to get the rolls that you want. I think the whole power system needs to be reworked and simplified.

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      • You said it. Having to do old content to play new content is bad game design. Also, the time invested to increase your power level is SO insanely disproportionate to the rate at which your power increases, it’s honestly a joke. I really don’t think the devs play the game. The power grind is antifun, just a chore.

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        • Yes it may be shit but the question is why do you care so much that will be the new baseline power in 90 ish days

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        • I got 26 pair of legs on my warlock before getting any other armour pieces, needless to say time vs reward on all pinnacle activities is broken.

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        • You mispelt Garden of Energy Weapons....

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          • I’m burned out, already quit this season maybe I’ll play in the fall

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          • We hear you and will provide your feedback to the ether. We hope you enjoy our plans to revitalize Destiny 2 for optimum enjoyment. More detail on our philosophy here https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kGOTIt2wJXs/maxresdefault.jpg ~Hugs

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          • The whole power level system is garbage, and honestly just needs to go away.

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          • Prime engrams an pinnacle rewards just suck in general even powerful rewards i never seen an mmo game have this type of leveling we should just get a xp leveling system. Warframe for example has a good leveling system then you just lvl up your guns which is easy money. Destiny 1 had a good leveling system destiny 2 just has it bad.

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            • Wait until you get energy drops from EVERY SINGLE CHEST in that raid. Two weeks in a row. Talk about a kick to the nuts. That happened to me last season.

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            • Without a raid to work towards, I'm completely burnt out on this leveling system.

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              Lowkey though this game is terrible

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              • They really are trying to put the final nail in this game's coffin by screwing with what people wanna play huh? As someone who's coming back from season of the undying this whole new weapon system with varying caps on legendaries seems like completely stupid move to me and I really think it's gonna be a huge mistake on Bungie's part simply because it's one thing when you're screwing with aspects of the game. The player base is willing to put up with it because they have things they like to use regardless of how they mess with other aspects. But when you start trying to force the player base into grinding the same things they already have and trying to push other things they don't want to use on them instead of releasing gear that's interesting and fun to use that they're willing to go for instead of their old equipment; that's when you piss them off. Classic bundev move.

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              • 3 powerful drops from umbral engrams = 3 Titan marks all the same light level. Banshee and Hawthorne weeklies gave me 2 kinetics same light level. Any wonder people wanted to afk forge farm when the rewards they get from playing the game normally are so terrible. Bungie need to do a complete overhaul on the rewards system for the game

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              • Your right just like regular "power" farming it's complete BS and pointless for 95% of the game. 3 small parts of the game that benefit of Pinnacle -Trials -Iron banner -Ordeal (grand) master If your not planning to play those 3 trash game modes, you should skip pinnacle and free some time.

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              • Don’t rush it, this is probably the best time to enjoy playing the game. You’re high enough LL to do almost everything. Do everything, for fun.. and if you get higher light gear then cool. Enjoy your space magic in a fun way

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                  Rushed to soft cap to give myself a week head start on the pinnacle grind, having done it 3 times before I know very well how much those limited sources of pinnacle gear count. Avoided crucibles, gambit and strikes to save those sources for when I needed to get past the soft cap. I managed to get to 1053 base on my main, and after reset was hoping to get to at least 1056. After a week of grinding all my pinnacle gear, my main is still sitting at 1053, because all I'm getting are same two items. Energy weapon, Class Item, Energy Weapon, Energy Weapon, Class Item, Energy Weapon, Energy Weapon, Energy Weapon, Class Item. In theory, you could play every week and never level, that's a really dumb system. It makes you not care about levelling, and if there's no point to level and you're incentivized to not care about it then what is the point in having it? Either way I don't want to do this levelling system again, either let us farm pinnacle drops or give us a way to choose what drops we get. This systems is bs, and I'm tired of dealing with it.

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                • Weekly clan is +1 . 100k ordeal and weekly story/savathun mission are +2.

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                • I got 10 sidearms/fusion rifles. 🤷‍♀️ Feels very bad.

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                • We hear you: We will remove all pinnacle/ritual weapons from the game :)

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                  • I think the system is flawed, but im not exactly mad about it. All the content is playable at 1060 (10 via artifact), so it really is just a bonus, and its only the second week. That being said i do have some observations. 1. There needs to be a distinction between +1 and +2 pinnacles. I didn't even know until this season that some pinnacles only offered +1, which really screwed my pinnacle grind overall. Either that or they all need to be +2, with a slightly higher pinnacle gap to offset it. Either way. 2. There is good intentional pinnacle grind routes. A good example of imo, the best loot source system in this game are the dungeons. The dungeons both drop armour. PIt drops low rolled, but masterworked armour, so it can replace your current armour piece that week, with minimal drawbacks, then at the end of the week, its useful for master nightmare hunts, and can be potentially be out levelled by another armour piece you can infuse back in your main armour piece, then dismantle the Pit gear for shards. Thats a really really smart loot system overall, since its valuable in mulitple different ways. And then Prophecy also drops armour, which works as a great potential armour replacement of the Pit, as well as high rolled and future proof. 3. There is a little too much RNG, but i dont think thats a massive issue. RNG is really necessary. If there was no RNG, then theres no loot grind at all, in which case the focus of the game goes away. There would be no min maxing, and hoping for a good drop. Eventually it will balance out however, sometimes you might just have bad weeks. 4. The loot imbalance is a bit of an issue though, however its more an issue with kinetics in general. Kinetics still havent broken out of their shell, and still feel like a lesser weapon slot, only to be taken up by stand out exotics or specials. Rarely does a kinetic primary shine. This is why i believe Statis is actually IN the same slot as Kinetic, potentially changing Witherhoard and Malfeasance to share that element, to open it up a bit more. But as a result, right now, there are more energy weapons than most, especially considering special energies, include more weapon TYPES than kinetics as well.

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                    • Edited by Hellfire: 6/19/2020 8:39:33 PM
                      Im tired of the grind. :(

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