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4/30/2020 9:59:59 AM
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Anteaus Wards balance Idea! Bear with me...
Anteaus Aping is the new hotness in 1v1 cheesing lately and as a Titan I love that they buffed it, but I don't love how free these things are.
You slide and simultaneously are nearly invincible and reflect projectiles in all directions on something like a 2 second cooldown and win every fight because you can shot them but they can't shoot you.
I don't want to see these things nerfed into oblivion but I do want to see a relatively fair price for taking hits with reflective vents.
I HAVE A PROPOSAL!
- Reflective Vents can only activate at FULL barricade energy. Sliding at full energy will not expend barricade energy UNLESS...
- Reflecting damage drains barricade energy scaling with the damage reflected, more damage means more energy. Might need a minimum drain of 30-45% or more to at least keep the cooldown at 15 seconds or more.
This should allow them to be a lot less spammy and not totally suck at all times.
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10 sec cooldown and everything would be fine.
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Just allow chip damage through on back and sides and that will take care of a lot of it
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I honestly just hope they don’t bring them back in the next Destiny. It’s hard to balance anything that makes you invincible. I do like your idea about using Barricade energy. I feel like that would be a fair change. Great post. Hope it gains traction. People are going to be salty either way, but it needs a change.
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9 RepliesHaven’t seen it once on console must be a pc thing
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Just give it a 9 sec timer before you can do it again it allows you to be strategic and be wise when using it so it well just be the exact as it is now just with nine sec timer seems fair to me
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I was acctually just logging in to the forums to post an idea almost identical to this. This idea makes a lot of sense since the barrier it puts up is very similar to a barricade so it should take energy to use to do it. Ive always been a fan of using the barrier to give different wall based abilities like warlocks can eat their grenades to get different abilities. Its a step forward like citans ramparts (regardless of how broken they are) in creating more engaging gameplay and build variety that seperates destiny from other fps's
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3 RepliesI HAVE A BETTER IDEA MAKE IT SO YOU CANT SHOOT WHILE SLIDING! IT FIXES THE WARDS AND THE MOST CANCEROUS PLAYSTYLE IN THE GAME!
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Easy fix. Revert them back to their pre-buff state. Nobody asked for this buff. Anomaly is going to be an absolute shitshow this weekend. I have no idea how something this dumb got through testing.
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3 RepliesDear god the ape-brained titans in the replies defending their full invincibility exotic that has a 2 second cooldown is the most painful thing I’ve had to read on these forums. The average optimal ttk in crucible right now is 0.7-0.8 seconds. Anteus shields last 0.5 seconds. That’s well over half of the ttk where the Titan can deal damage and receive nothing in return. Do I even need to emphasize how strong that is with a one shot weapon like shotguns? Or you could even get over halfway into a fusion rifle charge before the opponent can damage you. Anteus wards are too effective in the current sandbox. It doesn’t take many brain cells to realize that.
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7 RepliesAgain a PC only problem as on console you cant slide continuously...
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66 RepliesGive Titans an evade then you can nerf Wards. Until then deal with it just like we’ve dealt with Overshield dodging for the last 3 seasons. What’s good for the goose.
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3 RepliesNo. Nerf Hunters.
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9 RepliesEdited by DuBChiri2: 4/30/2020 7:38:33 PMRequiring an exotic to drain another ability when it doesnt specifically draw from that ability is ridiculous. Ophidian aspect doesnt drain your melee energy to extend the melee range by a meter or stompees doesnt drain their dodge energy for jumping. Remember when voidwalker had to drain super energy to charge up their grenade? Nobody likes that crap. Shorten the window the reflect is active and then decrease the size of the shield itself so you are only safe in FRONT of you and nowhere else. If that still proves problematic, add back the chip damage.
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24 RepliesMake it consume ALL barricade energy. Does nothing without a full charge. You want to invinci-ape? Better be ready to waste your stats on resilience and play without your barricade. More than fair.
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Edited by Lich: 5/1/2020 1:48:08 PMAnteaus wards should require a barricade charge to use. Which would give more incentive to run max resilence as you can get a 14 second cooldown. The damage resistance needs to also be toned down significantly! From 100 down to 20! As it can also reflect any throwable and projectile In the game all while simply generating super on a slide that reflects any damage. Any damage taken while in your slide will consume your barricade energy after the animation. Anteaus wards will no longer be used while in super and can't be utilized with sc! Doing so would actually require skill to use this currently broken exotic! So either win a 1v1 or use a barricade your choice. You all had an issue with battery mods, contraverse and arcstider dodge. But not this?
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6 RepliesEdited by Forest: 5/1/2020 5:37:53 AMOh yes nerf titans more yes yes!!! Titans are not allowed to have anything good or fun to use period!!! ~Hunters All you lot do is cry and cry and cry when titans or warlocks have anything remotely good. First it was OEM now its wards. Literally ANY THING that resembles a good titan exotic you lot flood the forums to cry and cry and cry.
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Edited by Kim Jong Boom: 5/1/2020 1:14:57 AMThe amount of people who use these boots as a crutch in this thread is incredible. I don't see how someone can possibly defend a .5 sec immunity bubble that they can shoot through in a .7 sec ttk game. It absolutely blows my mind how people think it's balanced. Edit: It should also not be possible to slide then shoulder charge for a guaranteed OHK with these boots equipped. The amount of times I've had this happen is insane.
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Heres the issue which happens ALL THE TIME Antaeus, even before the buff were fine But now every person is aping with them, causing people to say "hold on, these are OP" and thus they'll get nerfed
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6 RepliesEdited by 2z: 4/30/2020 6:40:50 PMMy idea is to prevent the titan from shooting through the shield.. just like barricade. This would give an even fight if the titan wasn't able to shoot while being protected. They would have to wait till the shield is down giving it a fair fight and a way to respond to the ape. That way the exotic still serves its purpose. To protect, reflect and gain super but you can't just ape with it.
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1 ReplyIt's working fine
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This sounds like a very sensible, and reasonable change. I know a few Salt Lords have already struck the post, but know that you have my support.
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5 RepliesI'm surprised I never heard of it getting full body protection. Why even do that?
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What a revelation! An exotic that provides a significant power increase passively that requires opponents to make changes to how they fight in order to make an attempt to outperform the exotic wielder is a flawed idea? What news! It's almost like there was a similar situation that the community argued over for a year.
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Honestly, as a titan main, I only use Antaeus because I dont know what other good exotics to use instead. I try to pair my exotic with how I'm going to play and what subclass + tree I'm using. Sunbreaker doesn't feel viable much, Sentinel isn't my forte in general, and Striker gets boring. Bottom tree is only good for the melee (MY OPINION), middle tree takes too long to activate and I can get 1 shot out of it, and top tree is...well...top tree, only fake titans use it for shoulder charge. As for exotics, I use either Antaeus, Dunemarchers, or Synthoceps now. Even then, Dunemarchers arent that great for Elim, and Synthoceps dont do shit. So Antaeus really are one of the very very very few options for me. P.S.: I've been a titan main since Y2.5 of D1 (switched halfway from warlock)
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8 RepliesOmg, where do you people come from? Beat it with the nerfs!
