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11/26/2019 6:00:14 AM
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Restore Mag Howl?
Given all the changes that have come both specifically and broadly to NF/LH and hand cannons in general. Would restoring Magnificent Howl to its former glory be a possibility?
What do you guys in the community think?
If anyone from bungie sees this, what do you guys think? Because i would love to hear your thoughts/reasoning behind it even with the current balancing that has come around, out of genuine curiosity of course.
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Keeping them 150s with the original function of Mag Howl would make these things amazing PvE weapons for burning down higher-tier enemies, while still not breaking PvP really at all. Would be nice to have them be as useful as Recluse in PvE
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revert them back to original form. everyone has at least wavesplitter to counter
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Restore only to NF
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It still 3 taps with 2 head and a body now and with the range bump from mag howl it makes it one of the best hand cannons currently.
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thought: make this weapon extremely precision based by restoring mag howl but reducing body shot damage to one or something.
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Bump to this!
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7 RepliesI say give Not Forgotten a completely different perk that sets it apart from Lunas Howl. Have no idea what that perk would be but I think it should be different than Lunas.
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2 RepliesOnly if pre nerf Hawkmoon comes back.
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8 RepliesI have actually thought of a better idea. Make it 3 shot hs as a 180. No mag howl. Stops the two tap and makes it stand out from other 180s. You're rewarded for actually hitting precision shots.
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10 RepliesWhat about leaving mag howl as it is, but restore the 180 rpm?
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4 RepliesEdited by an Ape with a d2 addiction: 11/26/2019 4:00:34 PMI think NF is in a good spot now. It's honestly still my favorite energy 150 HC. Highest range stat outta that category, literally zero recoil and intrinsic perfect mid-air accuracy. Personally I think pvp pinnacles should not bring applicable advantages in pve. Might be unpopular opinion, but we've seen the meta implications from earlier examples. In that spirit, if there was a way they could change mag howl to increase the 3-tap range just by a few meters without enabling 2-taps anywhere and not making the gun more effective in pve, I might be up for it. But even so there's a very real risk of suddenly making it a tad too strong in comparison to other HCs and it's go NF or get broke -meta. Considering how relatively easy 5500 has been this season that's almost certainly what you'd get. And knowing bungo it's a real possibility that whatever changes NF's mag howl would get would apply to LH as well. Which is a no since fabled is free this season and everybody has it. Problem amplified on console too from what I understand even with shadowkeep's hand cannon recoil changes. Where it ends up for me at least, mag howl is good as is. Let sleeping dogs lie. Pvp pinnacles have caused more problems than they were worth. Time to move on. This is from someone who has them all besides MT.
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4 RepliesIt still does it's job like it suppose to. It does the same damage. I have both lunas howl and not forgotten. There's no difference in how it acts.
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Make them a 180 again and revert mag howl to how it was but keep the range nerf. Every 150 can 3 tap.
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Especially for PvE, that little damage boost felt so nice
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At least on console, they're still very strong choices. For my sanity, I'd leave it alone.
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No. The purpose of LH and NF are that they are dueling weapons. They have -Next to no recoil -Next to no Flinch -Easy to land headshots -Mag Howl shot has more range and more damage It's a PvP weapon. Last Word is a PvP weapon. I prefer it as a 150. I hate 180s and I feel like they can't compete against other weapons due to lack of range and a horrible ttk. If they were to change mag howl. I would want it to keep it's current benefits but do 69 to the head. This means that they can buff the pve damage to whatever they want because it knows does bonus crit damage.
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I just want to use them in PvE more often 🤷♀️
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Ahh, it's nice to see Luna and NF getting some love on these forums, as opposed to just being hated on all of the time. Honestly though, restoring Luna/NF to their former glory would be absolutely amazing. I'm in full support, as I always have been.
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No thank you
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4 RepliesI'm not sure. I have never used the guns before it was nerfed. Ive only acquired both guns this season. But... Only Return NFs Mag Howl and not LH.
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11 RepliesNo, because the original Magnificent Howl was bugged and would sometimes double proc, allowing 2 tap hits from a 180 rpm hand cannon. Plus, there are less posts about reverting it than there were about nerfing it, so no need in stiring that cry fest up again. It's a 150 that 3 taps as long as you land 2 initial headshots. That's how it should have been all along.
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Edited by Erijian: 11/27/2019 12:40:49 AMI think Not Forgotten should get a precision damage buff with its Magnificent Howl, maybe around 80 damage, while Luna's stays where it is. Give us a proper distinction between the two.
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1 ReplyCan anyone tell me why is Luna's better than NF?
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Make NF an exotic and give it a catalyst for mag howl to be reverted. Luna would be too easy to get to deserve it and pinnacles are at exotic status anyway.
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3 RepliesIt was pretty busted back then, doing double damage each shot was pretty nuts for a primary
