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8/6/2019 6:15:45 PM
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Why is Redrix Broadsword so bad?

I've been doing some of my crucible triumphs lately and the ONE weapon triumph I haven't finished is the Redrix one. So I dust that gun off and give it a run. WOW talk about under-whelming!! I forgot how bad this gun is and I can't figure out why it hasn't been buffed. You can get some kills with this gun, if the people you are playing are clueless. I cannot think of one reason to use Redrix over my Bygones. My Bygones is better than Redrix in every way. So I think we all agree that slow firing pulses (and scouts) are not in a great place and haven't been since the launch of D2. If you aren't going to buff those weapons, can you buff Desperado? It's a hard perk to activate and it's even harder to actually use. 9 times out of 10 when I have Desperado activated, I'm one shot and can't push anybody. Please don't ignore this gun any more. Thanks

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  • It’s not bad I just won three Comp matches in a row using it as primary and I played solo.

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  • Because it actually requires skill to use. Unlike Recluse, lunas and NF which are mindless crutch weapons.

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  • Bad as in good eighties style?

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  • Redrix has one of the lowest aim assist stats. It makes it a lot less forgiving when hitting headshots. Its okay in pve against mobs of weak enemies, but generally any other gun is just as good.

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  • Remove the side rails and keep the red dot scope. Up the crit damage to 36 so in its correct range it can two burst. No reason to take it over the aggressive burst pulse rifles that have great range and ability to two burst.

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    • This gun is bad because it can't duel, what also makes it bad is that it can't camp(vs. Other pulses it loses the range game) and combined with the fact that outlaw is inconsistent ( because of its burst fire) aswell as its inability to handle flinch well plus terrible handling I'd say the cons out way the pros. In duel primaries however it was a beast as alot of people used handcannons and smgs and grouped up so it made flanking or having an excellent strafe very rewarding cuz once you had desperado nothing could contest you.

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    • I have few complains over Redrix. 1. Muzzle flash. It's so huge and bright, it obstructs the view. Anyone told modern bungee guns have flash hiders, designed exactly for that - reduce muzzle flash? 2. Magazine capacity. Effectively we have 9 "shot" weapon, that is one of lowest capacities. I'd say we need minimum of 30. Better - 39. Yes, there is backup mag mod, I'm aware, but I'm also aware this mod or magazine perks that increase mag capacity do REDUCE your overall reserves. Given Redrix doesn't have an ample supply (same problem with Breakneck/Hazard of the Cast, by the way), placing bigger mag increases your dependency on ammo drops, and imagine that, there were times when no primary ammo to be found. Another reason I love Fighthing Lion. 3. Sight. While technically it is not that much more of an "obstructed" than on Infinite Paths (which uses similar mesh), it has few issues. Brackets do slightly obstruct the view, plus, they are placed narrower, and while ADS they are projected onto "carrying handle", the fact they are closer together (and thus to reticle) create some problems when you have backlight. Because on Infinite Paths circular mount placed "outside" the narrowest point (which is almost always dark), it doesn't distract your attention from reticle. I know, it's hard to describe and understand without pictures, so, sorry. What I'd do - widened brackets, or removed them altogether. We have enough "projected" soghts, sich as SLO-10, 12, 21 on found on many Suros' weapons, such as Last Perdition, or Rasmussen ISA on Black Armoury weapons. Why not use those or similar to those? I find it hardly too difficult to modify Redrix this way. I mean, I've read various game-dev reports, modellers usually make an entire model for a day, week at tops, and here you need to remove two tiny brackets. Not really a Redrix's problem, more of entire archetype it belongs to. Their effective range is about up to 45 metres (if you have range MW, maybe more, but none of my Redrixes has one). Standard Redrix is even "shorter", like other representatives of the archetype, which go around 40 metres. And that is a problem - many revolvers have long range (up to 35 metres maybe), and ease of use (aim assist, no need to draw your mouse down to compensate muzzle climb, etc).. Thus we have very narrow "window" where these guns may compete. And honestly, how many maps have lanes long enough for Redrix, but not too long to be outclassed by snipers or scouts? Plus, many other burst rifles, like Bygones/Last Perdition, have comparable, if not better range, yet are more effective and easier to use in basic state (not to mention easier to obtain, at least Last Perdition is). Desperado changes things, but it's hard to use it on more than 1 opponent, as there are none around. Go Figure and Blast Furnace are totally from another universe with their range of 60+ metres, so I don't even compare them.

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    • It just cant compete on the majority of the maps in the game, maps are too small and mostly favour a HC or shotgun. If you come up against another pulse like bygones, last perdition, inaugural address, its too unforgiving unless the other guy has potato aim. 340 pulses are left out just as much as scouts, ridiculous how a complete archetype is unusable.

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    • The site sucks and the guns in this game are to close to your face. Also the gun kills in three burst ew. Agressive frames and light weight frames are so much better. Broadsword can never be hopscotch pilgrim

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      • Why use Redrix when Bygones or blast furnace are easier to use and can 2 burst with kill clip?

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        • 1.its sight is terrible 2.its base stats and stats on a groll range from bad to mediocre 3.it is highly unforgiving and could really use a damage increase to 36

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          • It's bad because the archetype is bad. If slow firing, High impact pulses ever get buffed, Redrix will be in a much better place.

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          • Takes a lot of getting used to, I’m enjoying it, I love the gun, but if I were to make it actually in the Meta Range, turn it to an Adaptive Frame & make the rpm up to 390

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          • Edited by Siptah: 8/8/2019 2:15:18 PM
            High impact pulses are bad all together, redrix is just the best one out of an already useless archetype. For one, aggressive frame 4 burst pulse rifles outclass high impact frames in every category possible. I can’t even think of any other high impact pulse rifles in Destiny 2 by name, that’s how useless and outclassed they truly are.

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            • Edited by TwoHanDz: 8/7/2019 3:07:48 PM
              I like how people say the gun is great but when you jump into PvP, NO ONE USES IT. Cut it out, the gun sucks and needs to be fixed

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              • Its not bad at all just requires a specific roll to even be usable and a skillled hand. Alot of people have grown accustomed to broken weapons and assume that if it isn't broken than it isn't good. That is a very dangerous rhetoric that needs to stop or the crucible and pve will degrade and have extreme powercreep.

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                • Who cares, you got it for free in a way that you dont deserve anyways. Long life to the redryx claymore gang.

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                  • I don’t think it’s bad.

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                    • Its a POS and the biggest waste of time for a gun in the game.

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                    • Cuz it's not a competitive pinnacle weapon. Anything else besides a comp pinnacle weapon is not allowed to be god tier.

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                      • Edited by Demon_XXVII: 8/8/2019 2:29:30 AM
                        Because Bungle As well as the gun being utter gash, slow RoF, low impact & absolutely terrible fixed sight rails

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                        • If you can get a good roll on it and are accurate it eats bygones alive at appropriate range but dont try and fight in less then 20m unless you have desperado active

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                        • i actually love the gun for quickplay. can absolutely dominate lanes if you land the headshot kill and then don't stop chaining.

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                        • I don't have it, but the sights would annoy me as bad scopes and sights have a detrimental effect on my ability to line up shots consistently. The Infinite Paths 8 is a great example.

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                        • I want them to give me the opertunity to get claymore again. Don’t see why they would take away a reason to play

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                        • I actually like the gun, I just wish it would two burst to the head. If they changed anything else I think it would be to powerful.

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