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1/7/2019 9:05:15 PM
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The location of other players that you match with is pretty much outside of your control, unless you use a VPN that is in a different region. You should mostly match players within your region. There is also software that can filter connections outside of a geographical area, such as is pre-installed in a net duma/ duma os router. That said, I would discourage the use of either of these solutions as there are drawbacks. I’m afraid you’ll have to rely on Bungie’s matchmaking, which can have a tendency to match you with players from all over the world, depending upon various factors used to determine if you are a suitable match to them. In some cases, one of those factors is the way Bungie ranks your skill level. In other cases, such as in the competitive playlist, a factor is your rank. In all playlists, one of the biggest priorities is to match you with players closer to you too have a good connection with them. This is not perfect though, and can vary depending upon how many people are online playing in that particular playlist at the time you were trying to find a match.
To help matchmaking find players near you, it’s best to try to load into a game mode with the largest player population, such as quick play, and to do so at times when players in your area will be more likely to play, typically after 5 PM, and before 11 PM or weekends from 11 AM-11 PM.
Good luck.
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Yo man, I want to thank you directly. Comcast refused to renew my IP unless I went on a business plan, or shut off my internet for more than some number of days, but it turns out that changing my MAC forced a IP renewal (until I got one that IP2Location located in my area). No I am in the proper region and 100% thanks to you. Playing this game is like night and day, now. I get hit detection, etc. Like 4 months of not being able to effectively kill players, a new modem, a new router (that DID help me figure out the core issue), and you figured it out. I am irritated that Bungie was no help at all, but you knocked it out in a quick back and forth. Thanks.
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So exactly what I am doing, and I will constantly have a 200ms connection to peers? -blam!- this game.
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Edited by Blump: 1/8/2019 11:58:12 AMJnikoley has a point. I have offices in Kuala Lumpur and I can ping them at around 180-190 ms from Florida. That’s literally half a world away. I’m with you on the speed of light limit, but 200 ms across the country is way to high.
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Also, FWIW, Kuala Lumpur should only be 80ms of latency. That means you have an additional 100ms of latency. Is it your connection? Hell no. It is because that shit is far, and there is a ton of shit between you are them, AND the connection on that end is probably not great. And that is what I am saying, connecting to the BEST possible connection is not possible. I have to deal with peers shitty connections in addition to crossing the entire country or oceans.
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Edited by Blump: 1/8/2019 8:14:55 PMAgreed. We aren’t transmitting light in a vacuum, we have to traverse the Pacific and Malaysia isn’t known for their low latency networks. We also run them through a point to point VPN which adds a little more. I only knew the latency off the top of my head because I had to get them below 200ms for VDI. VDI starts getting a little sketchy when you go above that.
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Yeah, bruh. It 100% isnt my connection. My friends list, with people I know who have stable connections, get me 30-45ms ping to the East Coast depending on the player. I routinely get 200ms from players over there and 100ms host connections, even while my ping to my buddy stays at 30ms. I have a friend 1000km away that I ping at 12ms consistently, all the time with no spikes. A friend in the same city as him pings at 50ms. That is why I am saying the players this game is connecting me to connections are "way to high" of latency.
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Edited by Blump: 1/8/2019 8:17:21 PMGotcha. You weren’t necessarily saying that your latency was always high across the country. Just that you are seeing high latency to most players you are actually being connected to for quick play matches more often than not.
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Well, there’s no way you should be getting a 200ms ping from west coast to east coast unless you are going through a VPN or a managed (e.g. college dorm) internet connection. I’m in Texas, and I ping my friend in Ireland at 84ms.
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Edited by WACK-A-n00b: 1/8/2019 7:52:24 PMHow are you measuring Ping? To host of a PvP match, or directly? If you have the ability to ping the host of a PvP match, group with your friend, and wait for a match hosted over there. Your ping to him wont be the connection quality. Your ping to the host mixed with the latency of the WORST connected player will be the quality of the connection. ONE guy from russia can -blam!- the whole game up. One high latency host can make your ping of 84ms to your friend meaningless. I direct ping individual players on my friends list from the east coast around 40-50ms. The absolute minimum possible (speed of light, point to point) would be 20ms (4,000km * 5ms/1,000km). I ping people 1000km away at 12ms. I ping 8.8.8.8 at about 8-10ms. My connection adds about 5ms over the speed of light to close peers. IN GAME (active PvP game) I ping the host to 100-120ms even when they are same area as a friend with 50ms ping. That is because my friend is not the host, and my friends latency is not what determines quality of the game. It is 12 players connection that does. The more dispersed they are, the more compounded the connection issue is. And I am consistently being connected to EXTREMELY poor connections, extremely far away. I am on a private connection with no VPN and no one else using the connection. This has nothing to do with MY connection. It has to do with connecting to East Coast, Latin America, Europe and including poor peer connections in addition to that, almost exclusively. I connect more often to Australia, 12,000km than to people around me (an area that goes from Colorado to BC to Baja - roughly 25% of the country population - 80m people). Matter of fact, the number of games where someone in the lobby doesnt have a 200ms ping just down in southern Mexico (where I should be getting 30ms) is absurd. Why am I connecting to these people? I connected to someone in Chile whos connection spiked to 3,500ms several times throughout a game. He finished last with almost no kills, but it sure -blam!-ed the whole game up. Bungie's current banning of people with poor connections is evidence that it is not something you can fix on your end if you are being connected to unstable or poor quality peers. It is 100% matchmaking forcing people to play with very poor lobbies.
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The speed of light would be 24 ms to Ireland from Texas. I direct ping my friend’s IP at 84 ms. I’ve used Duma OS to ping players in my lobbies, <60 ms is normal. 200 ms would indicate a problem in the matchmaking or your connection. No player hosts a match. You have an activity host and a physics host which run on cloud servers. Player’s only serve as hosts for matchmaking when in a party. This is typically the party leader who will draw the activity and physics hosts based on his region.
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Edited by WACK-A-n00b: 1/8/2019 9:12:27 PM>200 ms would indicate a problem in the matchmaking Uhhhh, yup. That is what I am saying. All the bullshit about my connection is irrelevant when I am connecting to terrible connections 4,000-14,000km away. >This is typically the party leader who will draw the activity and physics hosts based on his region. This either isnt true, or something is broken. That is why I am trying to get an answer. Is this not how it works, or is my region -blam!-ed up. I almost always connect to the servers in Virginia (iirc) and almost never light up the servers in the west. I more often get Japan, Australia and Europe, than I get the west coast. Probably 5% of my games connect to ANYTHING west of the rockies. It is as though Bungie is treating my connection as being on the East Coast, most of the time.
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Have you looked up your own public IP address to see it’s reported geo location? I’ve had friends connect to me who’s IP addresses came back to completely different regions than where they are. This is often the case when your ISP isn’t correctly registering your IP to your location, and they are never precise. You should expect some players in lobbies to be outside your region. Bungie has acknowledged connection based matchmaking is not working properly in quick-play, and the other playlists use Skill Based Matchmaking or Rank Based Matchmaking. That said, it doesn’t explain why you’d be getting 200ms pings to player’s on the East coast. I’d expect ping times like that if you’re matching players overseas. That is a problem, and Bungie does need to fix it, but your original complaint was getting 200ms ping times and players on the east coast.
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Edited by WACK-A-n00b: 1/9/2019 4:05:46 AM... Let me check that again Yeah, everyone but one service shows me in my correct location. ONE (IP2Location) shows me in the area that Bungie keeps trying to match me with players. How do I fix this?
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[quote]How do I fix this?[/quote] That’s a good question that I don’t have an answer for. I feel there’s more going on than just a location error. It might be something for your ISP’s higher level tech support to identify.
