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Edited by hotmarl:
9/19/2018 12:25:44 PM
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Sleeper really Bungie?
So in D1 we had a ton of exotics that were awesome and fun. Ghorn, truth, Last word, Thorn, Sleeper, and Black Spindle to name a few, and those are just weapons. D2 launch I am hard pressed to name one that was comparable to any of those. In fact D2 exotics were so bad you had to make catalysts to make them better and some you outright gave them new perks. So now we have a couple of exotics that are good and you are going to nerf Sleeper.
Why, because people don't know how to use cover? They can't hear the Drifter say that they are being invaded. Maybe Buff the Drifters lines like Shaxx saying "seventh column."
If you go through with this please don't let it affect pve. So tired people getting killed by a weapon or super and having it affect the pve environment.
Edit: keep the post going let Bungie know we are the majority.
2nd edit: So they are going to nerf the aim assist. Still don’t agree with it. Still it affects pve, but I guess it is better than a full on nerf. Crying kids get there way once again. Probably won’t be last attack on sleeper.
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It still works will in gambit, but the aim assist is GREATLY reduced, feel like no AS at all.
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1 ReplyI mean....if you can't hit with sleeper in pve I have no sympathy for you. But it's fine, you can use it in gambit. I'll just pull out queenbreaker and...
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1 Reply“Buff Drifter’s voice line”. Yes, cause that’ll stop Sleeper users.
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1 Reply.... The nerf took effect yesterday if you havnt noticed it then clearly it wasnt as people bitched about
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3 RepliesIf it affects PvE you really need to stop playing and wait a few years to grow up.
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They are needing the aim assist!
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1 ReplyYou must have no aim and can’t aim so you need to body people with sleeper.
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7 RepliesYou're going to call the people asking for a nerf "crying kids" while you're making posts complaining that your OHK body shot gun is losing some aim assist? Yeah, sure...
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1 Reply[quote]They can't hear the Drifter say that they are being invaded.[/quote] Really? I thought the blaring alarm, flashing red screen, timer in the corner AND drifter letting you know there was an invader was enough.
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1 ReplyIf you can aim then brother you can game! - the drifter
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2 RepliesThey basically said if you can aim, you wont really notice. I mean what are you firing sleeper at, where aim assist is a big deal?
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1 ReplyThey have stated that this nerf will only affect PvP. PvE remains unchanged.
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2 RepliesI kind of agree, I've only been killed by sleeper a handful of times in gambit. Plus if a team is wasting it on you, that's less damage output on their Prime Evil, it's a give and take. I think if they want to balance it they should just make it so exotics are not buffed by armor abilities, cause I can imagine where there might be frustration is if you play against an enemy who has a No Flinch Linear Fusion rifle node on their armor. At least with flinching you stand a chance against it face to face.
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1 ReplyWhy do you need aim assist with sleeper in PvE anyway? You’re using it wrong if you need that...aim at the ground in front of the enemy and the ricochet will do more damage than your crit will.
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2 Replies[quote]2nd edit: So they are going to nerf the aim assist. Still don’t agree with it. Still it affects pve,[/quote] Disagree. I've been VEHEMENTLY against the weapon being nerfed....but I think this is the perfect move. 1. It won't affect PVE because you're going to be using it against slow moving, high-value targets. 2. It wont' rescues stupid players in Gambit who stand still out in the open....or run at you in straight lines. 3. It will reward skilled fusion rifle users in Gambit when it comes to hitting moving targets. People with good target tracking skills and timing will be unaffected. People who try to precharge and then snap aim or hip-fire will find themselves struggling. A reduction in AA won't save 80% of the fools I'm currently killing with it. I'm willing to make the other 20% a little more of a test, if it will stop the whining and prevent Bungie from breaking the weapon in more fundamental ways to pacify the Crucibabies.
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8 RepliesAn aim assist nerf would be perfectly fine.
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4 RepliesIts an OHK weapon with infinite range that is hitscan, has huge aim assist and aquisition. It's a scrub weapon for if you can;t aim for shit. Get over it kid you suck, use something else.
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2 RepliesDude you just suck. They should ban it from Gambit, then it won't be affected in PvE and the problem is solved
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Sorry op,but you should know anything that gets nerf in pvp also affects pve players. You can always count on the pvp crowd to always screw over the pve crowd. Well back to my Godzilla marathon <3
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Last night, a player with aimbot enabled invaded. Within 2 seconds, 2 of my team were dead. Then I realized that he didn't have aimbot and that Sleeper Simulant just fires bus sized projectiles. [spoiler]Pls don't nerf Sleeper, just disable heavy for like 10 seconds while invading or something[/spoiler]
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1 ReplyOther option is ban it from crucible entirely. What is bungie supposed to do....put up the middle finger and say nothing? People cry nerf...and bungie goes overboard. Been this way since D1
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4 Repliesall they have to do is restrict sleeper simulant from gambit. that way, they don't have to change it at all.
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47 RepliesWhat is it with idiots using the “just stay behind cover” excuse? How the -blam!- can you kill an invader without exposing yourself?
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Haha, get a load of this guy ...Anyway, i'm glad they are trying to fix it so that other exotics and heavy weapons can be viable in gambit
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It’s the seeing thru walls that’s the problem
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14 RepliesEdited by TheArtist: 9/18/2018 11:09:46 AM[quote]Why, because people don't know how to use cover?[/quote] Basically. You have a lot of PVE players playing Gambit who have very poor skills where it comes to PVP. You have people who have been literally arguing me down about how they shouldn't have to take cover, and how they shouldn't have to stop shooting BOTS to deal with an invader. Its like they think they can just ignore the PvP part of this game until the Invader literally just wanders into their line of sight. Its breathtaking, the cluelessness. The other problem is that you have skilled PVP players who aren't used to being enagaged at the ranges that Gambit arenas allow....and don't think they should ever be one shot. As a D1 vet, you'll understand this. You have PvP players who are basically BITCHING because they are being "one shot out of their super" by being hit with the equivalent of a rocket from Gjallarhorn or Truth. You and I both know that weapons would kill ANYTHING in D1 if you got a direct hit....and they were a hell of a lot easier to use than ways people are using Sleeper in Gambit. But you have these arrogant guys who think that they should be able to hang up in the air like the Hindenburg, and I shouldn't be able to burn them down for having lost situational awareness. Or that I should be **helpless** just because they popped their super unless I have one of my own.
