It is too strong. Period. Anyone saying that there are other one tap weapons therefore this weapons not overpowered are actually the ones that aren’t skilled. Name one other weapon that can one shot from that range. It basically turns invading into a camp where you spawn and wait for the enemy to peek so you can one tap them. The defending team literally can’t do anything but snipe them or rocket them, or use sleeper itself. But this still puts you at a huge distant vantage because the enemy knows where you are and has an over shield. Overall no other weapon can even compete with sleeper because it is basically a sniper that one shots and has a short zoom scope and has a 3 round mag. The only downside is the charge time, which is actually really fast. (Tracking rockets aren’t the same thing by the way because at close range they’re almost useless and the rockets have travel time, which makes it super easy to dodge because you literally hear the rocket and can then Go behind a wall.)

How to beat Sleeper 1. Save some heavy or a super when you know an enemy will be able to invade soon 2. Check spawns/locate the threat 3-1. Use cover (if you know where the enemy is, you can keep behind cover) *if you have higher motes than your teammates or are lacking heavy or super this is your best option 3-2. Aggressively engage the enemy, WHILE USING COVER (don't run straight at an enemy and expect to do anything besides get yourself killed) *if you have zero motes, lower motes than your teammates, or heavy/super this is your team's best option (I say team because even though you might die you will, hopefully, distract the enemy long enough for your teammates to bank their motes or kill him from a different angle) 4. Play smart. Invaders have some bonus health, damage, and locating abilities. However, it is still a 1 v 4. Use your teammates to your advantage. Spread your team out or have them all go to spawn. Spreading out allows for easy flanks. Spawn camping forces the enemy to attack you from one direction.

Just remove sleeper as a weapon you can use in gambit.. its so overpowered. The people defending it are the d!cks that use it.

Let’s not forget that the catalyst reduces charge time by almost 50%, effectively turning it into a sniper with no drop off, a bigger hit box, ricochet rounds and it bodies. Add in the fact that its one of the best choices to melt bosses as well and you have a weapon that restricts gameplay because you lose a serious advantage not rocking it.

The solution to this is simple: [i]Make invaders spawn in without heavy or super.[/i] All their other buffs/advantages can stay as long as theyre forced to actually mix it up with opponents. They can pick up heavy and get a big chunk out super off of players they kill as a reward for the effort, but only the truly skilled will be able to get a roll going. Fight for your kills guardian! Show them the true meaning of war!

You mean that game ‘Sleeper’? Yeah, I’ve played Sleeper where you kill ads, fight invaders and use Sleeper. If you’re getting sick of it, you could always play some ‘Shotgun’. You know that pvp mode Shaxx runs? Don’t mind jumping on for a game of Shotgun here are there. ‘Iron Shotgun’ starts tomorrow doesn’t it?

I have to entirely agree. I've sunk thousands of hours in to the first Destiny, and just came back to Destiny II for this expansion -- and Gambit is a great mode. It's truly unique, it's fun, and it's pretty relaxing to play... at least it was, until the Sleeper Meta attacked. The weapon has become the use-or-be-abused. However, we don't want the Sleeper to be nerfed, Bungie. Just simply lock out Linear Fusion Rifles from Gambit. With the ability to see where your enemies are 24/7 they just feel unfair. Especially since they can OHK someone out of their super, even (other Linears require a headshot, though.)

I mean I don't really think its a problem. Golden gun is way more powerful, I get 4+ kills 70% of the time I invade cuz its a beast. But a big counter (shocker) is just hiding away behind walls in the back of the map... ez. The problem I have is people just sitting in the back with a sniper like whiper just waiting to kill you the instant you invade or get invaded.

No offense,but because of guys like u,Destiny 2 could become a very boring game.So,you're saying that Sleeper is to powerful?Then,why don't you use it?This might be the best weapon I've ever had and you want it nerfed?Don't play Gambit then,if u can not use it!

Jesus, you have to stand still to be hit by it - or stand out in the open. I was hunting players last night and they kept moving out of my path of fire. Bungie, nerf player movement when invader is ADS with sleeper!!!!

How much Gambit have you played? The gun is only good for killing people standing still. You need to hunt the invader when they come in, instead of keep playing PVE and grabbing motes!

It isn't ruining Gambit, you're just terrible at the game mode and blame it on weapons that you don't know how to defend against. [b]The truth is that I, and most of the entire Destiny community, (at least D1 year 1 players) are absolutely sick and tired of putting in hard work, time and effort to get the hard hitting weapons that are insanely good only to have them taken away because of whining crybabies like you.[/b] I can give you examples. [b]Vex Mythoclast. Gjallarhorn. Ice Breaker. The Chaperone.[/b] And now? Sleeper Simulant. I'm tired of pouring countless hours into trying to either randomly roll into getting these powerful weapons or doing the quests to get them, only to have them taken away by mommy and daddy (Bungie) just because the other siblings don't want to put in the work and time to get them. [quote]"I don't have them so they shouldn't be able to play with them either!"[/quote] The Tarantula is also a great linear fusion rifle. Do you want it nerfed as well? Because nerfing Sleep Simulant will only hurt raid teams and future boss events. Just because you lack the forsight to play smarter when you know that Sleeper is present in a match doesn't mean that the rest of us that put in the work to get it or other powerful weapons should suffer. Bungie, please stop bowing to people like this and punishing the hard working members of your community that work to get good weapons only for them to be stripped from us. That just simply isn't right.

I feel like the only one who doesn't use/have sleeper and still destroys invader and invading myself

So.....by that logic, next up to nerf are rocket launchers, snipers...pretty much anything that can one-shot someone STANDING IN THE OPEN.