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Edited by Queen of the Ravens:
11/1/2017 7:01:53 PM
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@cozmo, please listen to this, its just a suggestion to help calm the mobs
i know i'm guilty of the hate train right now but i'm going to be frank with you man, i know what your job is and i was wondering if you can pass this on to the live team or the devs one of which it doesn't matter.
but i feel there isnt enough transparency with the development of the updates that are in weekly updates. if you can please to lower the aggressiveness of the mobs going after you right now. may i suggest that you put thought on what the new content thats being added to the game will or might be even if it wont happen a thought process to these updates will help the player understand the direction without having to guess from just text.
for example say endgame being addressed through the weekly update you can say "here at bungie we are working on a plethora of fixes and changes for the endgame of destiny, as such here are our thoughts onto the subject matter. people are feeling that there is nothing to do; no incentive; but right now we are working to develop "X" in such a way as to encourage the player base "end game actives may possible include "X" to promote "X" to accomplish something that they desire"
the weekly update can be an important tool for you to utilize in gaining trust of the community in many aspects, many feel betrayed right now for the lack of blunt honesty of the development of the game that they love, i myself so SO MUCH potential that is going unnoticed and if the community is just screaming at you and luke for this and that cause this and that were never noticed people make assumptions on whats happening.
right now i still have many things to do but i have no want to do them because there is no incentive to do so, and with the curse of osiris dlc coming in almost less than a month is nothing is address as such i feel it isnt going to do well, i see people that had the deluxe edition doing the story and leaving.
cozmo make something of this nature happen i plead to you or i feel the hate in the forums and else where are only going to get worse.
- a concerned guardian
Edit 1: yes i have read the TWAB but i felt it didn't address the matter in a way that it was said was vague and uninformative. from what i was reading i just said this stuff is coming eventually and from what i can tell after the streams we'll be left in the dark again, also please share this thread around the forums if you can it would be greatly appreciated.
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2 RepliesEdited by TheArtist: 11/2/2017 2:08:56 PMFirst off, I appreciate your concern for Cozmo and the respectful and considerate tone of your post. Those are a rarity these days in this entitled environment. But the fact is that Bungie talks to us in the way that they do, because we----as a community---act like a bunch of spoiled-rotten, underparented kids whenever they talk to us. Whenever DeeJ shows up here, he gets showered in personal abuse. Even when Cozmo tries to weigh in on a issue that the community is upset about, people show up to throw shit at him. Hell you have people who don't even PLAY this game....and never have played Destiny 2....who show up everyday for no other reason than to act out, shit all over Bungie and this game....for the negative attention it gets them. If you want transparency...then you (the community, not you personally) have to act like a mature adult. Because you're going to hear things you don't like. You're going to hear things you don't agree with. Life is unpredictable so preliminary plans may have to change. You have to be able to HEAR those things without flying off the handle, raging and showering people with abuse (and in some cases even threats). Or accusing people of "LYING" if a target date can't be met...or a preliminary plan has to change. So in lieu of being transparent to an immature and volatile (forum) community. Bungie just tells us what they want us to know....and they don't say anything until whatever is planned is basically complete, and ready to deliver. ..and if we are going to get mad, rage, and abuse them NO MATTER WHAT. Why should they engage us in any other way? Because the outcome is going to be the same anyway. They aren't the problem. WE ARE. We've "taught' Bungie to treat us like a bunch of tantrum-throwing kids.
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5 RepliesWell, I for one hate rng. I don't want to grind for endless hours, doing whatever, to MAYBE get the gun I'm after with rolls that matter. Leave gun rolls alone, or have the Gunsmith sell rolls. Instead of HOPING to get an item I'm after from the raid for example, I'd rather receive tokens which I can then goto the tower and PICK what I'm after from sweeper bot. It should be this way with factions as well. Remove about half of this games rng and I for one will be happier. And furthermore, instead of responding to my post Guardians(I don't check responses anyway), build upon this post with your own thoughts and maybe, just MAYBE someone who cares will read it and learn from it...
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Cricket.......cricket...........cricket. Dude they are on Vacation.
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1 ReplyJesus if you are going to direct something to a grown adult please at least use correct grammar and capitalization. This is why Cozmo's job sucks, he has to read and answer shit like this.
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1 ReplyThe ultimate issue here is that, even if we had Achronos belting out community concerns to Bungie like he did in the golden days, this simply is not the same Bungie. It wasn't the CEOs that listened and told everyone that 'Players say that X needs to be revisited, So lets revisit it.' and the CEOs and Founding members of Bungie are legitimately all that is left. the BUNGiE that we know used to care about the community is now split between 343industries, Microsoft and Highwire Studios. The current Bungie is likely just a bunch of underpaid new-hires and interns that don't even get the chance to address our complaints without Luke Smith and his Activision Overlords shitting on what they dreamt it would be like working for the god-father of the FPS genre.
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[quote] Edit 1: yes i have read the TWAB but i felt it didn't address the matter in a way that it was said was vague and uninformative. from what i was reading i just said this stuff is coming eventually and from what i can tell after the streams we'll be left in the dark again, also please share this thread around the forums if you can it would be greatly appreciated.[/quote] I read the TWAB too and was not overly impressed. Fan boys lost it as they thought it was like mana from heaven, but most of us Destiny vets see it for what it is: lip service to try to silence or ease our complaints. I have a feeling that without a major change in philosophy, whatever updates they need to make will be small and amount to nothing. The problem with D2 is it was built with a flawed philosophy in mind: that PVP can be competitive, fair, and balanced while allowing the PVE experience to thrive, be fun and replayable, etc. without the need for separate sandboxes. They tried this in D1 and it ultimately failed, and their way of fixing things in D2 to make things work actually just made things worse. The elephant in the room is Halo. The current bungie team is obsessed with recreating the MLG days of Halo, and it has done incalculable harm to the Destiny franchise. Destiny has never simply been allowed TO BE Destiny. It's always had to exist in the shadows of Halo, and now, its creators want to try to force it TO BE Halo. It can't do that successfully without separating PVE from PVP. If they don't resolve this issue (the unified sandbox) or alternatively give up their dream of making Destiny a competitive E-Sport, then you can't really fix the issue because your just fixing things to try to hide the problem rather than resolve the entire CAUSE of the problem.
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5 RepliesWeapon rolls shouldn’t be static, it kills replayability
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Edited by Land: 11/1/2017 9:43:29 PMNaw brah, gotta keep dem crackheads fiending for more
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2 RepliesWhy would you want to calm the mobs.. they are the solution to the problem that is bunghole and cuck shills like cozmo
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1 ReplyBlizzard is excellent at providing additional info & commenting on why they're making the changes that they are. Their dev update videos & the official forums are great (as far as transparency goes I mean). Even if you don't play Overwatch just go check out one of their update videos.
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1 Replyon a side note please dont add hate to this thread i merly want comments on detail discussion on what they would like in the game if you decide to comment as it can also help cozmo if this thread even get up
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i really hope this thread blows up it could help more than people think if they even listen
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16 RepliesTWAB - 1026/17 https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/News/46427 [quote]The conversation continues about how this game will evolve. Game director Christopher Barrett is also working on making Destiny 2 a game that will challenge and reward you in new ways. You may have heard from him in the past, as he introduced new ways to play in House of Wolves and Rise of Iron. He’s an engaged player – a Guardian like you – and he has some new thoughts about how the world of the game should adapt to the way you play. CB: Hey, everyone. We've been playing the game in the wild for seven weeks, and like the Destiny experiences that have come before, we're always thinking about where the game is heading next. We're still planning when a bunch of the improvements listed below are going to make their way into the game, but we wanted to let you know what we're up to. Here’s a short list of updates we’re working on: •New systems and rewards to give our most engaged players additional, optional pursuits. •Better incentives for players who complete challenging Prestige activities. •Better rewards and replay value for strikes, adventures, and Lost Sectors. •Private matches for the competitive community (we are targeting early 2018). •Crucible tuning like adjusted Supremacy scoring and better spawning rules. •Better incentives for completing Crucible matches (and penalties for quitting competitive games). •Continued improvements to Iron Banner and Faction Rallies, including uniqueness of rewards. •Changes to make the mod economy more interesting and impactful. •Ongoing improvements to Exotics, including adjustments to reduce instances of duplication. •New ways to spend surplus currency and materials (looking at you Legendary Shards). •An emote interface that allows players to equip Salty, Spicy Ramen, Six Shooter, and Flip Out all at the same time. There's more we're working on. We'll talk again soon. -Barrett @cgbarrett[/quote] Also - the Twitch Stream last week mentioned three (3) livestreams happening this coming month - obviously to discuss future content. Like the Osiris DLC - Dropping Dec 5th. Give it a read.
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Why are all of your variables "X"? "Y" and "Z" are pretty cool too.
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3 RepliesYou’re going to have to learn to use your caps button if you want anyone to take you seriously.
