I too have considered passing on D2. I really wish that Bungies attitude was to tell us WHY rather than just saying it can't and that's that. With so many other game running at 60 fps, it is making it really hard to play anything else. Just a shame really.

Very disappointed? Not just disappointed or sad maybe unhappy? If your that upset don't get it but like other people have said it's about balancing plain and simple I'm sorry your going thru this horrible tragedy maybe we should all send you a simpathy card

Yes perhaps uncapped would work on the pro and x but again this segregates the community as the regular xbox and PS4 would be on separate matchmaking pools as 60fps in pvp or trials would be one hell of an advantage

Why not at least 45 fps? Overwatch on console runs that,

#notreallybothered.

This is the problem with mid-range console updates, I think. A factor is going to be that people who have bought the PS4 Pro, or who plan to but the Xbox One X, want to feel like they're getting their money's worth. If they shell out on the hardware, they want to feel that the games they play are going to push that hardware to its limit. Being limited by what the "Console's little Brother" can feel like a slap in the face... ...except when I heard about the two console refreshes, I could always see this sort of thing happening. They're designed to play the same games side-by-side with the lower specced versions. Prettier graphics and a higher resolution is likely easy. Fully doubling the framerate, possibly less so. The Pro and the X are not "new consoles". They're slightly better versions of the existing consoles that can play the same games but with a little bit extra in the presentation department. Yes, they can do more but they aren't separate platforms. The same games still need to be able to run, and run well, on the baseline models. Especially at the moment when the PS4 Pro is relatively newly released and the [i]Xbox One X isn't even out yet[/i]. I guess the other perceived problem is that the refreshed consoles [i]could[/i] probably run really well (and very impressively) at well over 30fps. But there's a difference between "up to" and "locked at" and, for whatever reason, Bungie seem to favour being able to hold a consistent framerate - and without sacrificing detail. I get the feeling (although I may be wrong) that those who are annoyed at the 30fp lock just want it to be significantly above 30fps - "mostly 60 but might drop a little bit every once in a while" would still come over as an improvement to them. Or so it seems.

These gens werent made for it.

Very true. Even if they wanted to leave PVE at 30FPS, there is not excuse not having 60 FPS on PVP. Xbox One X has the power for 60 FPS, PS4 Pro can do 3k at 60 FPS I believe.

Maybe in 2020 Destiny 3 will have it and also online optional.

Lol what did you expect? Buy a pc

You are comparing very different games. Destiny is far more complicated (at least compared to bf1) which bf2 really is a reskin of). Destiny had loads more weapons. Destiny weapons had more combat modifiers. You carried 3 weapons which magnified the modifiers by 3. You also had weapons in inventory. Destiny characters had different subclasses with enough skill trees to create a hundred options. These subclasses also had their own melee and grenades that also may have perks that affect game play. Destiny armor had more modifiers. Both passive and active. Destiny also has more armor pieces with their own combat modifiers. You had inventory that could affect game play. You had characters with active and passive abilities that affect game play for other people in the game. All of these things are running in the background. All need to be managed by a CPU. And battlefield is really a generic character with few modifiers. So yea, they can focus more of the CPU on frame rate.

The ps4, and the xbox1 can't run 60fps. There is just too many things going on at once to do it. Those other games simply don't have the mechanic heavy things going on within them.

We've seen almost as many posts about this as dedicated servers. I'm not sure how that affect playing the game on a 65" HDR tv's. Might look like crap. I'm more concerned about... --lack of content. --- a few story missions, one raid... It's like they sliced up the game into a bunch of parts. --lack of PVP game modes. --- 4v4 doesn't sound very fun for the only option. Guessing that was the fix to lag? --no dedicated servers. --- I won't believe what they say until I get a chance to play on Xbox 1 -- the strike that was demo-ed looked so boring. Lots of open space, not many adds, mostly using primary, slow charging supers. -- weapons looked more cookie cutter. -- no grimoire -- I'm guessing we fixed vault space by deleting all our weapons or gear. I'm not saying don't buy the game, but I don't see how $30 worth of content is worth $60. It might be worth it wait a while and pick it up once the price drops. I guess we'll see when we play the beta.

Agree...pretty sorry. The cons list getting longer. Love the game, but it's losing that loving feeling goose...