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Edited by JakeDarrell:
1/23/2017 4:42:39 AM
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If you didnt play in year 1 stop calling it mapador...
No respectable year 1 player would refer to the matador as mapador. Before ttk shotguns had twice the range and 3 times the consistency, so shut the hell up already. Shotsguns are a depressed shell of their former selves. The majority of you "guardians" on here cry about any gun that kills you, that you dont enjoy using. Bungie is mostly to blame for the imbalance in the game, but you cry babies fuel it. Yall are gonna cry very soon at the next meta and the cycle will continue.
Edit: i should have mentioned that after shotguns got nerfed for the 4th or 5th time everyone said they were "in a great place". All the while sniper nerfs were more prevalent. Bungie than nerfed snipers (didnt touch shotguns at all) and all of a sudden shotguns are now OP. LMFAO the logic of this community is hysterical
Edit#2 i would say 90% of you have logical responses in regards to my post. Whether it be agreeing with me or against my opinion. The problem with the people who disagree yet have logical and intelligent responses to this, have no facts to back them up. A lot of you have mentioned that the ttk for primaries having dropped has in directly made shotguns op so they need a nerf for balance. I would agree with this if it were actually true. Fact is most of the primaries were nerfed a few months after ttk release, yet shotgun usage did not increase and than snipers were the meta for around a year. Right before roi we got our last weapon rebalance which actually buffed a few exotics reduced ar mags and nerfed snipers. Up untill that update went live snipers ruled destiny. We were than introduced to the clever dragon which has an optimal ttk of. 80 seconds which is one of the easier and faster ttk weapons weve had in a while (so technically primaries got a buff) . So back to my original statement only when snipers got nerfed did shotguns become over used, because snipers could no longer get shot multiple times in the face and pull off a crisp headshot, so they switched. Sooooo yeah unless you can bring facts, stop spewing ignorance. Like i said the majority of you have help bring imbalance to this game, cheers!
Edit#3 Metador is a perfectly fine name to refer to the matador.
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7 RepliesYou speak the truth. Those that disagree are the cancer of this game and are mostly noobs and casuals anyway. What they need to realize is that Bungie makes you play Destiny the way Bungie wants you to. Every time one of these little johnnies cry about shotguns or Clever Dragon all that's accomplishing is making the game less FUN to play. The next weapon Balance will nerf the current meta into semi-useless ness. The next meta will emerge by default. Here's a heads up to you little Johnny noobs and casuals coming from a Day 1 player. STFU the game will be better for everyone if you do.
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It is currently the Mapador with the current weapon balance, hence why Bungie already stated they are looking at it. Still not as bad as Felwinters lie and shot package.
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nope still a mapador even without shotpackage
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I'm not a Y1 player, but unlike most, I've done my homework. I could probably speak as well about Year 1 as most Day 1-ers. I jumped on board near the beginning of TTK. And I don't think shotguns are a problem. I don't think the Matador is any different than any other shotgun in the archetype. People vaulted their PC+1 and/or their CT-D and equipped a Matador either for the nostalgia or because it quickly became the new shiny metal and they needed to get on the alleged "OP" train. It's ridiculous. Technically, stat-wise, it can outshine the others by a tiny sliver; not enough to even register. It is stupid, plain and simple, that people justify complaining about it. I'll kill you just as easily and from just as far/close with my Her Champion, and no one will bat an eye. I'll also mow down your Matador rush with my Queen's Choice. So what is there to whine about? [spoiler] That's rhetorical. There's [b]nothing[/b] to whine about.[/spoiler]
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1 ReplyIts only a mapador cause every other gun has gone to shit. Look at auto rifles and hawkmoon and thorn. I enjoyed year 1 now everything feels slow and clunky like bungie has drained us of our light. How the hell are we going to defeat the darkness if our creators are only giving us sticks to fight them. -blam!- all you nerf crybabies
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4 RepliesBuff Autos Rifles so we can just spray down the shotgun warriors.
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The only one I can do good with is the Chaperone.
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4 RepliesHonestly the people on these forums want anything nerfed that's killed them more than 3 times. They'll never know the real struggle of year 1 shotguns
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Bring back the god roll felwinters and then let the tears commence
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42 RepliesShotguns are at a perfect state right now. Leave them.
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All year 1 weapons are shells of their former selves. I miss the old days.
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Facts...miss the y1 days
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1 Reply"Complains that shotguns are OP and that primary weapons need to be buffed; Complains that weapons like Cleaver Dragon are OP and needs to be nerfed". - Nerf Baby logic.
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I can't believe people still find things to complain about 3 years later. if you get killed by a matador get over it and get with the times.
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I have a good Matador and I often hit someone with a close shot and they are left alive. Use high armor and unless it's point blank you will live through one shot.
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Edited by Lose: 1/22/2017 8:29:18 PMFelwinter > Mapador
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Restore snipers to former glory
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Edited by The-Man-In-Plaid: 1/22/2017 9:42:15 PMI call it felwinter's reincarnation
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But it wasn't like a Dark Below Felwinters Sniper
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Year 1 shotgun range is year 2 fusion rifle range
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2 RepliesMatador is bs. The sniper nerf was bs. The primaries in this game are horrible. The game has gone to shit, and sadly this games devs are money grabbers I love this game, but hate what has been done to it. I feel like destiny just isn't a quality game.
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Felwinters Lie with shot package... Oh the pain. Actually shot package in general
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Cringy year 1 superiority post
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Surely if I got the full auto rangefinder rifled agg that nearly everyone has that I play against I wouldn't want them to touch it ethier Full auto on the matador is the biggest problem for me right now The high impact slow ROF shotgun suddenly turns into an invective with max impact I mean wtf were they thinking
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2 RepliesHuh. I call it Metador. Yes, I do remember that it was way freaking worse when shot package and rangefinder and all that was a thing. Way worse. And I don't really think the current Meta is quite as bad as everyone makes it out to be. But I'm also not gonna ignore that there's a matador in nearly everyone's hands. In banner, it's almost whole teams (except that poor turd that snipes). In trials it's hard to find a team that doesn't have a Matador. And it [i]is[/i] the range on the damned thing that makes it so effective. I don't think shotties should be touched, so much as other stuff being slightly brought up. But for matador itself it wouldn't be such a bad idea to shorten the range a hair. If at all. But I'd rather see more weapons get more utility than shotguns brought down. Most other stuff just sucks. To be honest, I don't really care one way or the other. I always do okay enough to have fun and stuff is still a challenge. And I like finding loadouts suitable to [i]my[/i] style of play that can counter Meta loadouts. Because at the end of the day, it's still about the plays you make and the guy holding the contoller. Anything can be outsmarted and outplayed.
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Every single time Bungie is about to release a weapon's tuning patch post like this always seem to pop up, stop complaining about X item that has been running rampant in the Crucible for months on end. It didn't stop certain weapons from getting nerfed in the past and it isn't going to stop Shotguns getting a look at with this upcoming patch.
