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Edited by G-Star-84:
12/9/2016 8:02:39 PM
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Juggernaut Shield Shouldn't be Stronger Than a Golden Gun
Juggernaut shield is a regular move that has a few second cooldown. Golden gun is a super move. Regardless of how you spec your golden gun, it should be able to kill a Titan with juggernaut.
I think the duration and frequency are fine but lessen the amount of overshield juggernaut grants. Jugg shield is really OP right now and makes the shotgun meta worse.
Edit: I've seen a lot of comments about shoulder charge. FTR I never thought it needed a nerf, and I hope Bungie brings it back to pre-RoI cooldown and accuracy. In any case, a shoulder charge nerf does not justify having a regular shield that is invincible to supers among other things.
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I think any golden gun shot should ohk a jug, not just keyhole. If a fusion rifle can blast through jug shield and get the kill then GG should too.
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The shield "tanks" the shot because it isn't actually connected to the titan, its in front of them. Keyhole makes short work of them in a single shot and it kills the guardian too.
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It's not stronger then GG you have 3 to 4 shots so just need to shoot the exposed bits, shoot the legs the shield does not encompass the entire titan. It's like how Shade step has true invincibility frames and can negate quite a lot of forms of damage and tracking and stickies and stuff. But you don't hear me complaining about it. I have no qualms about using more of my super to ensure a kill as long as I survive. And before you accuse me I may have a titan but I also mostly play Warlock and trying out Hunter and I've never used Jugg, I don't like sprinting the entire time I play and prefer super denial with unstoppable. I will admit that keyhole should pierce it though and before you say "why do I have to spec for this?" well surviving is always nice like how shadestep can avoid supers and it only has a 3 sec cooldown. Why does a Voidwalker have to spec with shatter for bubbles? I understand that you're comparing a super to an ability that does actually have a cool down, but then why can a shadestep negate damage from a super as well and no one complains? Blink can do the same even though it got nerfed. All classes have their own forms of Bs so why even bother complaining? I mean after Jugg then what's next stormcaller? And after that what, Nightstalker because all classes have BS?
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It's a shield, that's what it's supposed to do, block stuff, stop crying or play a different game 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
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3 RepliesIf I can take a titan out with the AR (on my titan) while they use it you can gg too. Like hunters and warlcks have blink, titans get a small shield. Also when I use gg and am up against a titan I shoot at the feet. Always works.
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Time to clear things up. Jugg shield blocks damage from a weapon. Notice how Golden Gun takes the shield out in one hit but doesn't kill the Titan. That's because the shield negates damage that broke it. To fix this, Bungie should allow Keyhole to over penetrate the shield.
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3 RepliesGolden gun is OP enough stop whinging
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2 Repliescan jugg tank a hammer?
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I've had Juggernaut Strikers block my Hammer of Sol but I don't get on the forums asking them to be nerfed and neutered like you hunter mains.
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1 ReplyBut it is because hunter shouldn't be allowed to kill effectively in PVP we should have to struggle for our kills while the other classes get them with ease
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3 RepliesMan you hunters bitch about everything don't you me personally I think it should get nerfed but not to where you can shoot through it with GG maby increase the time it pops up just like the shoulder charge nerf ( unnecessary) it's just an idea
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6 RepliesWell that's what happens when ppl cry Shoulder charge nerf
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12 RepliesNo. Jug is a life saver in pve when you need to super adds. If there was a way they could increase resistance to minions of the darkness, while reducing resistance to guardians, I'd be for it. I'm sick of classes being destroyed because of pvp. I dislike a jug titan, but I'd rather see balance than another nerf.
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1 Replyuse dead eye
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1 ReplyWith Deadeye active for the damage buff, can't a single shot out of three instakill a mid-FoH Striker with Unstoppable on?
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2 RepliesI think you misunderstand why it can tank a golden gun. Jug shield will absorb any amount of one time damage. There is no penetration. So it doesn't matter if the damage exceeds it hp.
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1 ReplyIf it has keyhole then I say it should but other wise no
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1 ReplyAs a Titan main, I do agree with this. GG should one shot Juggernaut. It's not a Ward of Dawn so it shouldn't be able to absorb one shot. Period.
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1 ReplyGolden gun should be able to penetrate a jug shield with keyhole, but not without that perk
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36 RepliesDuring the Shoulder Charge meta, when it became evident that it would be getting nerfed, a handful of Titans warned the community that this would happen. More Strikers would ditch SC in favour of Jugg, which would make PvP [i]many[/i] times worse. Were we right? Damn straight, we were. Am I sorry? Not even a little. I'm of the belief that Jugg should tank one [i]regular[/i] GG shot, but Keyhole should overpenetrate the shield and kill the Titan (the same goes for Armour-piercing rounds on weapon rolls). Just my thoughts.
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8 RepliesI LOL because its first strikers are too fast, now it's jugg being able to tank GG shots. Yet every post I've seen that mentioned the above says Titans should tank since they're the tank class, but we see this crap complaining about jugg tanking GG. The uneducated an less skilled will always bitch and moan until they get their way, I mean look what happened to sunbreaker 😑😒🙄
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9 RepliesJugg shield should have the same HP as the Sunsinger's Melee shield. I don't see how it's logical for titans to be able to run minimum agility and still be able to move faster than Bladedancers with maximum agility, and in addition to that get a shield that can tank GG shots, fusion rifles, and most primary weapons before the victim gets shotgunned in the face.
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55 RepliesYou have two more shots, use them.
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11 RepliesI like how juggarnaut was ignored before the shoulder charge nerf and now it's op all of a sudden
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here's what i think, juggernaut is a shield that can block either a set amount of damage, but can also black any type of ballistic shot when up (ballistic meaning a solid object, not explosions) so while it is up, it can stop any projectile but will disappear after taking a set amount of damage, if that make sence
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Same thing with shadestep my sunsinger shouldn't have to be completely negated because of it. They should remove the disable tracking ability it has.
