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Edited by D0MINATION:
4/18/2016 12:56:11 PM
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People still saying MIDA, Doctrine, Snipers, and Shotguns are "OP."
All 4 of these have been nerfed. Some have been nerfed multiple times. And people still aren't satisfied. At some point, people need to come to grips with the harsh reality: [i]everyone could use super soaker water guns and they'd probably still lose.[/i]
The fact is, some people are just better at pvp. It's like Sols always says..."you can't nerf the player." Bungie has shown multiple times that they're willing to nerf things if enough people consistently complain about it.
But when the same people are constantly complaining, I think it's time to pause for a second and ask why that is. Are these players extremely negative? (k/d?) Do they have minimal time in the crucible? Do they actually have experience using the things they are complaining about?
Sometimes things are legitimately broken. But every now and then, we've all got to stop for a second and take a look in the mirror.
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The people crying nerf will always cry nerf because they are spoiled little immature brats who can't handle losing.
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1 ReplyAre they?
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I did not read your thread, just title. I have not seen or heard anyone say such things. people are spoiled trash cry babies.........
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If crybabies or try-hards get killed by anything they will band together and cry for its nerf.
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7 Repliesrevert to HoW or vanilla balances and try again. this time, DONT listen to the babies, know-it-alls, and ToO try-hards and maybe the game can recover. also, more PVE/player driven content. people who want a hard core PVP game need to find a game thats for them. not force a co-op PVE game to be the PVP game they want. CRUIBLE HAS RUINED DESTINY. ESPECIALLY TRIALS. SCREW EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU SNIVELING, NERF DEMANDING, UNPLEASABLE, ROTTEN LITTLE SCRUBS WITH A SUPERIORITY COMPLEX AND EGO THE SIZE OF CHINA. go back to CoD, jack arses!
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All of these can easily be countered. If someone is using doctrine with shotgun, he can't kill at long range. Hereby leading to snipers. If the person is using a sniper rifle, use a shotgun at a doorway. Easy as pie.
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in the case of the doctrine of passing and its adept variant nothing is wrong with the damage my problem lies in the rate of fire. two hunters one with the doctrine and one with the dead orbit assault rifle both shooting the body the doctrine will win because it's a bullet hose coupled with the high stability it is just to strong in that aspect the only way to beat it is with a super, catching the wielder by surprise and that's not possible with the mini map or have 2 or 3 buddies of yours gang up on him. its a good gun don't get me wrong but it has to much going for it to not be considered op.
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The last set of shotgun nerfs need to be reverted. They were completely uncalled for. Made The Chaperone worthless, and sunk shotguns in PvE even farther down into the ground. Again, PvE suffers because of PvP, where almost nothing seems to have changed. We need the full HoW-era PvE damage multiplier back, as well as the last set of range, handling and reload nerfs reverted. Seriously. Shotguns weren't even addressed in PvE for the April update, despite the fact that data would show they are very underused in PvE.
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2 RepliesEdited by cViking: 4/19/2016 11:48:20 AM[quote]The fact is, some people are just better at pvp. It's like Sols always says..."you can't nerf the player"[/quote] This right here is true, No matter how much they nerf or buff the better player will almost always come out on top. Everything in this game is easy as well at least for me, I do not play as much as I used to but I can easily go positive, I do have bad games when I face someone better then me but I do not let it bother me because there is always going to be someone better. I think Mida and Doctorine especially are complained about just because it is so easy to just spray with them and hit head shots. The only time I usually get a bit salty is when it is laggy.
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4 RepliesAs I said before. The people always crying nerf can be given a gjallarhorn as a primary and still get wrecked. No matter what gets nerfed they'll always get owned. Just accept that you're going to lose some fights. There's always someone better than you out there. Enough with the nerf posts.
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I don't understand how anything can be considered "op" in a game that uses p2p and has a long history of connection issues
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11 RepliesWell Doctrine Is just a bullet hose that requires you to just point and shoot and you win So I feel like all people who use that gun are self centered Female Hygiene Products
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11 RepliesSnipers are still crazy OP. There was practically zero change to snipers.
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-blam!- them retards. Mida was nerfed and shotguns are shit in pvp and pve! It's ridiculous who Bungie listens to and those bullshit graphs they say are real.
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Too many kids playing this game is all it is.
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6 RepliesThats what happens when you make Destiny a rated T game. You get 14 year olds.
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People are idiots.
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MIDA is a great weapon I wouldn't say overpowered it's just easy to use. The doctrine is a little overpowered still though. The thing doesn't flinch and it causes flinch, it's not balanced.
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39 RepliesThose weapons were op, snipers didn't get nerf right and yet people still cry. Just shut you kids, get use to it or quit playing. You are what ruin this game.
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Played a little Crucible last night... short of marks, would kind of like to snag the NL Shadow 701X, thought, "Why not?" Dropped in with my year one Shadow with full auto and explosive rounds. Sweet gun, but it felt slightly underpowered against some of the things I was facing. Wondered if the level (160) had anything to do with it (it's not supposed to) so I changed to the Mida. Now I don't ordinarily use the Mida for PvP. I have used it a lot this week for CoE, since it was a primary modifier with bonus for precision kills. Since I'd practiced a bit, I could more than hold my own in the match. My dumb play killed me a lot, but I never felt like I was exposed at any range other than nose-to-nose. To be fair, I normally use an Arminius, and had I stayed with that a lot of fights that went slightly against me would have been won. But, since stats don't matter to me, I went ahead and experimented. That said, I won't apologize for using anything I like. I have them because I've played enough to get them. That's reason enough to allow me to use them. There are maps I might use the Mida, others I would not. OP it isn't. If it was a one-size-fits-all solution, maybe I would. To me, it isn't.
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People who complain about shotguns are just mad that they couldn't get that 1kys shot off before getting destroyed.
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Too many people think they are super stars, when the truth is they are just scrubs like me. The game would be a lot better off if they could just admit they are scrubs and play for fun and just try to get a little better with each match
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The fact is, this game was NEVER designed with PVP in mind, and honestly it should be removed (save IB and ToO) so Bungle can maybe "bungle" less of this amazing game's potential.
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Nerfing anything in this game ruins it. Players make the weapons OP not the other way around. Same goes for the Class Supers. There are players who live Destiny and those who play it when they can. I feel there should be no nerfs at all and everything should be reset back to vanilla. All complaints come from PvP players that to be honest, aren't really that good to begin with. Bungie has tried to please everyone and it hurts the gameplay each time they do it. Example: Recently, Last word was nerfed for the 4th time. Why? Because others never took the time to figure out how to shoot the gun? Sad thing is they are still going to be killed by it because those who have enjoyed the benefits of using LW, can overcome the nerf. Shotguns are supposed to be 1 shot kills. IDK about you, but if I was shot by a shotgun point blank in the chest, I'm probably gonna bite it. Same goes for snipers. You pop me in the face im gonna take that dirt nap. Now I don't think the res snipes should be so effective because it makes reviving pointless in most cases. But alas, the whiners of the Destiny community will continue to grow. Just remember, you can always play Ms. Pacman if Destiny is to hard for you.
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People just can't adapt so they cry
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BUMP, read
