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7/13/2015 6:39:11 AM
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Hopscotch Pilgrim or the Messenger?

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  • my HP has rodeo, braced frame and reactive reload, unreal stability

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    • Praedyths timepiece.

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    • I prefer messenger over all others. It just works for me. (Even moreso than my super pox and hopscotch).

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    • Hopscotch.

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    • Super Pox VLO

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        Cough cough 3 little words

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      • I've tried both. The Hopscotch is awesome, but I prefer the range of The Messenger. I can beat some snipers with it from long ranges that isn't possible with the Hopscotch.

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      • Edited by Pain the Human: 7/15/2015 3:59:45 PM
        I haven't tried the Messenger yet, but I love my Hopscotch. - Headseeker - Rodeo - Field Scout EDIT: FIELD SCOUT! EDIT 2: FIELD SCOUT!

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        • Edited by PickleSideOfTown: 7/15/2015 3:43:03 PM
          I don't have either of those, but I do use Coiled Hiss when I use pulse rifles. I just got Timepiece and Oversoul, after i level them up, I'll give them a try

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        • My hopscotch has Headseeker rodeo and Smallbore. I love it

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        • Depends. Do you like the perks on the Messenger? Honestly, I find Headseeker pointless. It's a 2 hit kill pulse rifle. Headseeker increases damage from 38 to 41, if you miss a headshot and hit the body (26 damage). 6 Headshots (2 actual trigger pulls) = 228 damage 5 Headshots + 1 Body w/Headseeker = 222 damage 5 Headshots + 1 Body = 216 All are 2 shot kills, unless you have a full Toughness Warlock with the Ram. He MAY survive 6 Headshots, and probably survives the other two. I prefer Hopscotch Pilgrim because I can get the perks I want. Plus, HP can get Stability to 100 which Messenger can't, and that little bit of difference can make a big difference at range. With 100 Stability it's a complete laser.

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          • Timepiece

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          • Edited by K1tty Head: 7/15/2015 3:09:38 PM
            The conduit. Roll it with counterbalance, grave robber, and small bore. It's the best weapon in the game. 18 rounds before small bore, can't beat it.

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            • Edited by tents: 7/15/2015 2:09:00 PM
              "He skipped like a stone on time's ocean. This is whats left"-

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              • Skorri's Revenge!

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                • If you can get both then so be it... you can roll a HP to be EXACTLY identical to the Messenger (mine even has the exact same scopes as the messenger)... The only difference my HP has over the Messenger is an extra trigger pull and a little more aim assistance. But you can also roll the HP differently if you want... some people like Outlaw and Reactive Reload, some people like braced frame and hidden hand... The HP is malleable and thats a plus, but they are both great guns.

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                • Don't use a reload perk on hp you can use gear that reloads faster just a tip

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                  • Messenger

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                    • What are the best perks for pulse?

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                      • I do pretty well with the Pilgrim on my hunter. The stability is so high that during the nightfall I got a precision hit for 1508. I couldn't figure out what happened, but then I remembered that it sometimes happens with shotguns that all of the rounds hit in the same place and it just combines all of the shots into one damage number.

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                        • The Messenger adept love it replaced all other guns when I got it

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                          • From Planetdestiny.com... You can thank the HYPE TRAIN: "Looking at other Legendaries, the aforementioned Hopscotch Pilgrim and Spare Change.25 are both very stiff competition within the same RoF/Impact class. Each of them beat out The Messenger in at least one key stat, and can be re-rolled indefinitely until you’re completely satisfied. If you’re looking for a faster RoF, the Vanguard’s 55A-allFate is one of the best Pulse Rifles out there. The non-Adept Messenger is in no-way “better” than any of the above; if you have a nice roll on any of the Pulse Rifles mentioned, there’s no need to go chasing The Messenger right away."

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                          • The Messenger...Spare change isn't too bad either

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                            • Looking at other Legendaries, the aforementioned Hopscotch Pilgrim and Spare Change.25 are both very stiff competition within the same RoF/Impact class. Each of them beat out The Messenger in at least one key stat, and can be re-rolled indefinitely until you’re completely satisfied. If you’re looking for a faster RoF, the Vanguard’s 55A-allFate is one of the best Pulse Rifles out there. The non-Adept Messenger is in no-way “better” than any of the above; if you have a nice roll on any of the Pulse Rifles mentioned, there’s no need to go chasing The Messenger right away.

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                            • Messenger.

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