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5/1/2015 10:28:21 AM
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Do we really understand control?
Why am I running into full teams that cannot understand the damn concept of control? I never play PvP yet I understand if you have the two best zones you do not try and capture the third. It changes the respawn points!!!
Am I the only one running into these batch of retards?
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No you are not. On blind watch never cap A, and on shores of time never cap A, and on Delphi C isn't terrible but A is so much better, on Rusted Lands C is better, on Twilight Gap A is better, on Asylum it's all B, Burning Shrine A is better, Anomaly either is fine really.
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I've only had one match that wasn't with a pre-made team where no one on my team went for the third zone. Blind Watch, spawned at A. Almost immediately managed to flip the spawn to C and cap B. We held both the entire time and there wasn't an inch of blue on A's diamond for the rest of the match. It was great. I have had matches with a fireteam of 5 though, where the one random will try to cap the third zone solo. It never ends well.
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Edited by SweetZombieJesus: 5/2/2015 3:53:40 AMI watched in complete awe the other night as a level 32 with full raid gear ran back and forth between zone c and zone b in rusted lands... Aimlessly... Sad really... He or she seemed lost...
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Meh my best games are when the team rolls around together just capturing what's in front of us and killing everything
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Well at least they're trying to capture the zone. I keep getting people who think we're playing clash. -_-
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I ran into a batch today that either didn't know what they were doing, or were just screwing around. All I know is that I'm not that good, yet I still scored 7000 in a control match. That never happens.
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I was in a match once against a bunch of titans and they kept using bubbles (and i mean constant bubbles) on B and my team kept throwing themselves at the bubbles. I wish i had a mic at the time cause damn just keep A and take C
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4 RepliesYou are already wrong. Capturing a base does not automatically give you that spawn point. It's what team has a majority of players NEAR that spawn that gets it. Just because you have C on blind watch and your whole team dies while at C you don't spawn there because the enemy team obviously killed you therefore they have more players near it...do then you spawn opposite if them...at A.
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Capping a point gives a player 75 points, multiply that by 6 and the team already gets 450 points. This causes A to be Captured much faster. The 6 players can then rush to B and challenge their split team usually 4 people rush B 6 vs 4 with the advantage of the 6 knowing exactly where the 4 are standing Then the 2 that capped C trickle in (late to the party because it took them longer to cap with less people.) In paper this is the best way to start a match.
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1 Reply5 man team rushing C on Blind Watch right off spawn Special random: "Don't worry, guys, I'll cap C" Team: *Facepalm* GET OFF
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Most the people playing IB are terrible PvE players so they don't know shyt.
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ive never played a match this week where people didnt go for the third
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That's why I pretty much only play clash unless I have friends on or to complete the 5 control matches bounty..
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Destiny is filled with retards. They don't understand that. If anyone on XB1 is looking for an actual competitive fireteam for iron banner just add me
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If I'm playing with my friends and we're in party on the mic to each other we capture all three zones because the extra points for each kill are worth dodgy spawns. If people really need to know exactly what direction of the map their enemies are gonna come at to be able to get kills in control then they're just bad players tbh, cap all 3 and just don't die?
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1 ReplyEdited by darklordmtt: 5/1/2015 9:07:29 PM[quote]Why am I running into full teams that cannot understand the damn concept of control? I never play PvP yet I understand if you have the two best zones you do not try and capture the third. It changes the respawn points!!! Am I the only one running into these batch of retards?[/quote] No. Capping points doesn't flip spawns, you can do that by swarming a particular region of the map. Also, spawns are going to flip regardless, so adapt & focus on getting kills & multipliers. I'd much rather play with a team that's actively working the map then a bunch of frightened "know-it-all" players that suddenly crumple up b/c "ermagerd! we lurst B!!!!" Just play well & stop bltching.
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3 RepliesControl in other games means you get points for controlling the zones... in destiny you get more points per kill based on how many you're controlling... I'd bet there is a good percentage of players who don't realize this.
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No no u are not
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2 RepliesEdited by Fromage of Havoc: 5/1/2015 9:06:49 PM[quote] I never play PvP yet I understand if you have the two best zones you do not try and capture the third. It changes the respawn points!!![/quote] You don't have to capture the point to change it. Majority of the team being there (near spawn) already does that...that's why sometimes the opposing team can -blam!- everyone up by making you spawn at "A" after you already having "B" and "C"...they've raided "C" (without actually capping) and flipped the spawns (example).
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You want total control and lockdown. You're a scrub
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People are incredibly stupid. It's the only way I can understand what goes on in IB
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I've jumped into matches before, and tit was the lack of aggression to "control" all the zones that was costing us the game. My team were trying to hold on to a spawn point or an area of the map. Thinking it advantageous.
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No you're not the only one D':
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1 ReplyI'm fairly new to Crucible and Control so it's been a bit of a struggle for me to understand the whole "spawn flipping" thing and how that works. I think I have the hang of it now and know what zones are the best to go for on each map. Funny thing about Blind Watch... no one wants A... but one side DOES have it. After the first cap, I like to try to go get C and hopefully a couple teammates are coming with me while 3 others go for B. However, if our team is too weak in the skills dept. and can't get C then it seems better to me to stay at A and try to hold that. If the other team is that good, they will come for A. That may be the wrong thing to do but I think at some point you have to recognize your inability to take the best zone from a great team... and you have to stop feeding them kills and just go hold the crappier side. Of course if people leave and new people come in and they push and get C... then I'm all over it.... ditch A and head to C!
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Actually, spawns flip when two-three people are on the other side for an extended period of time (<7secs)
