House of Wolves comes out March 10th, 2015, exactly 8 weeks from today, and there is still no hard mode for the Crota's End raid. Why is this an issue? Bungie chose to drop primary weapons from the hard raid only. We know that there are 4 legendary primaries available and one exotic primary: [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/inventory/item/2809229973]Necrochasm (Exotic Auto Rifle)[/url], [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/inventory/item/4144666151]Abyss Defiant (Legendary Auto Rifle)[/url], [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/inventory/item/4252504452]Fang of Ir Yût (Legendary Scout Rifle)[/url], [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/inventory/item/437329200]Word of Crota (Legendary Hand Cannon)[/url], and the [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/inventory/item/868574327]Oversoul Edict (Legendary Pulse Rifle)[/url]. That's 5 weapons available to drop in at most 6 weeks. Crota's End came out 6 weeks ago today and many of us haven't received all 5 of the special and heavy weapons; personally I've only received the three special ones (Light of the Abyss five bloody times...).
So let's do some simple math...
1 raid weapon costs 18 radiant energy to upgrade.
4 raid weapons would cost 72 radiant energy.
72 radiant energy / 6 weeks (maximum amount of weeks for the hard raid before HoW drops) comes out to 12 energy per week you need to get.
There is one location in the raid that can possibly drop a weapon: Crota itself. This location also drops armor, special weapons, heavy weapons, and materials with materials being heavily weighted.
Let's assume you get two pieces of armor, one primary weapon, and 6 radiant material per run (this seems above average in my experiences but we do need to include a weapon). That will only net you 36 radiant material in 6 weeks per character (sorry to everyone with one toon) or the 72 radiant material if you run 2, and 108 if you run all three characters. Of course you may need to use 21+ of those materials for armor especially since most players do not have a single toon with a helmet yet let alone all three.
So let us add what's required to get the helmet maxed to those needed materials.
1 toon = 105 Radiant material total (57 more than most will get)
2 toons = 126 Radiant material total (42 more than most will get)
3 toons = 147 Radiant material total (27 more than most will get)
At this point in time it is quite literally impossible to upgrade your character(s) and all the weapons--if you can actually get them--before The House of Wolves drops on March, 10th, 2015. Why is this an issue? Simple: There is already a new confirmed level cap (say goodbye to the raid armour), and maximum damage for weapons (these weapons will be obsolete before you can even max them out).
TL;DR -- Bungie waited too bloody long to release the hard raid and are releasing their pseudo-expansions far too close together. Everyone is wasting their time playing Crota's End because everything you get in it will be obsolete in less than two months time when you can just buy better gear.
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[u][i][b]Edit: I just realized you'd only have 6 weeks not 7 weeks since the House of Wolves would drop on the 7th week. Figures have been updated.[/b][/i][/u]
[u][i][b]Edit 2: The general consensus is that weapons only drop from Crota despite what available information suggests; post has been updated to reflect this.[/b][/i][/u]
[u][i][b]Edit 3: For everyone who says that House of Wolves doesn't drop on March 10th I'm fairly certain it does. This goes off the Xbox LIVE pre-order information, Bungie's statement that HoW drops in early March, and the leaked info.[/b][/i][/u]
[u][i][b]Edit 4: Some die-hard fan seem to be unable to do math or look at a calendar. The Dark Below has been available for 6 weeks. The week not being finished yet doesn't mean that it doesn't count.[/b][/i][/u]
[u][i][b]Edit 5: People still are having a ridiculously hard concept of understanding time so let me explain it in bold.
December 9th, 2014 -- The Dark Below launches, week one
December 16th, 2014 -- Raid is reset, you can run for loot again. Week two.
December 23rd, 2014 -- Raid is reset again, more loot. Week three.
December 30th, 2014 -- You know the drill by now, yes? Week four.
January 6th, 2015 -- New year, new reset. Week five
January 13th, 2015 -- Date of the post, new reset, new loot and gasp, that would be week six!
You've been able to run it 6 different times per character since it launched ergo it's been out six bloody weeks.[/b][/i][/u]
[b][i][u]Edit 6: Over two days, 400+ comments, and almost 200 up-votes yet no comment from DeeJ. Who would've thought![/b][/i][/u]
Be sure to up-vote and comment on this post so it stays at the top of the boards. Maybe Bungie will respond. =D
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1 AntwortenDestiny raiding needs some more flavour IMO, so I figured I'd share a couple of my personal favorite fun/challenging raid fights from WoW, and maybe get some inspiration/ideas flowing :) Heigan the Unclean (Naxxramas) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zuVX8x5dq3g Thaddius (Naxxramas) (skip to 3:45) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E4K6JLUlxUY Sapphiron (Naxxramas) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QmxpzV_aDCw Kil'Jaeden (Sunwell) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Of8ruQqE6fk Archimonde (Mount Hyjal) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YAAneXWC3UU Kalecgos (Sunwell) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XAejgO2Qn8A Felmyst (Sunwell) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B6RIMIBsIPk Void Reaver (Tempest Keep) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KtwDXcHV6jI If anyone can think of any other raid fights from any other MMO that they really enjoyed, I'm interested
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I realise this is an old post.. But right now its the 4th of March, I have multiple raid weapons maxed (have been maxed for a while) and 3 32's.. I'm sitting on 100 Radiant Energies and 60 Radiant Shards.. Idno what you're crying about, tbh I couldnt care about how soon HoW is, I'm sick of looking at Crota
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Your whole thread is completely invalid since it won't be released on the date you thought
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Bungie said HoW would not be released till April May June time
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4 AntwortenHard raid is out, and Bungie stated only that HOW comes out sometime between March April May and June.
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1 AntwortenI have one thought regarding the hard raid? wont we get double drops same as VOG so you could get 4 drops so doubling your chances of getting any of the items? I do agree that the hard will probably come to little to late ( I only want the arc scout)
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1 AntwortenCheck your math, it's February 8th and I have a 32 Hunter, titan, and warlock with at least one of every raid weapon maxed, in some cases (word, hunger, hammer) more than one with over 30 energies and 50 shards in the vault
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well in the hard raid everything from normal drops from the other parts so yea......
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7 AntwortenEloquently written; and what a issue you bring to light. Wholeheartedly, I agree vehemently with you. The time frames set for the DLCs are ineptly too close to one another. Regarding Radiant Material, however, a simplistic and logical solution would be displacing its drop rate elsewhere, I.e., Nightfalls, ROCs, Crucible, Daily Stories, or even Public Events. But unfortunately, as it stands Crota's End is the singular place in which one can obtain the latter. Aside from that, mayhap Bungie could also increase the level drop for Crota's End Hard Mode; this would insure the content at least keeps a modicum of value post House of Wolves release, something VoG shamefully lost to the The Dark Below expansion, save for the Exotic drops of course.
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bump it, bump it real good...
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3 AntwortenIt's like heists for GTAV all over again.
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2 AntwortenWhy do you think so many have given up till all dlc is here! Destiny 2 arrives & all current dlc will probably come out as a pack for about £10 & bungie will hopefully have stopped pissing around with destiny & be busy nerfing destiny 2 whilst making destiny 3! ;)
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this wholeee gameeee is brokennnn
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To be completely honest, they could just wait to release Hard mode until House of Wolves drops and I wouldn't really care. I made a 3rd character (to have all 3 classes) that is on it's way to be 32 just like the other two. The only thing Hard has that I want is maybe the Nechrochasm if it has grimoire. The weapons don't really draw my attention that much except maybe the hand cannon, and since you said it yourself, we're going to have another botched release with the Vanguard selling level 33 gear, so might as well get ready for that to drop instead of clinging to hope Crota will be relevant for much longer.
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5 AntwortenIt's to bad there us no other way to get materials you might need, like from an npc in the tower or something.
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Yeah it looks like they still want us to play CoE even when HoW drops
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Lol simple math? One raid weapon is only 18 radiant energy. It's 6 for one upgrade not 7 like the armor. I do agree with you tho hard mode should have came out this week... House of wolf's should not come out until at least 3 months in my opinion
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We thought vog was a waste of time now wait till HoW Lol would there even be a point as a new player? I guess shards which is ironic now Us older players bitched about shards dropping to much now the newer players will cry they dont get enough lol Guess my fatebringer wont do so well in new raid.. shame and the new raid hand cannon is pretty shitty in my opinion but guess we wont know till it releases
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TL:DR, doesn't matter anyways because when the DLC drops all raid gear and weapons will be obsolete(again). You can always go back and play it afterwords if your trying to get them all. I'm still playing vog for fate bringer even though it will be next to useless once HoW comes out.
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there is no point to Crota Hard raid, its just purple weapons and the mats to make 1 AR exotic. why bother if all these weapons become useless in 8 weeks with HoW dlc ( cut content ) lol another bad game design.....again.
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10 AntwortenThe HoW raid is only lvl 32 CE HM is not a issue for me
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*slowclaps for math*
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i heared there releasing hard crota in next weeks hotfix
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2 AntwortenHmmm I have 2 Lvl 32s and every raid weapon at 331 been this way for 2 weeks.......... Your radiant material rate is flawed
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More developer cluelessness.