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For the Deathsinger If you don't shoot at or near the initial mob she never starts preparing the liturgy. I tried this last night after my team went to bed on that checkpoint I was able to solo kill both wizards before she ever started "preparing her song" The catch here is: If the mob follows you up the stairs and camps out next to a wizard, shooting the wizard will trigger her prepare event and the shriekers don't spawn until she starts preparing In any case, you can run past the mob without attacking, lure both wizards out, and kill at least one before the timer starts (both if you're lucky enough to have the mob stay down the stairs), extending the amount of time you have to kill the boss I tested this a few different ways Note: by "countdown" I mean the message "Deathsinger prepares her song," not the liturgy of ruin itself I spawned and shot a knight, immediately triggered the countdown I spawned and shot near a knight (hitting a box), immediately triggered the countdown I spawned and ran past them, killed a wizard, lured the second one out, the mob followed me up the stairs, shot the second wizard and that triggered the countdown I spanwed and ran past them, lured the first wizard out, the mob followed me up the stairs, shot the first wizard and that's when the countdown started I spawned and killed both wizards without the countdown ever starting and the mob never followed me up the stairs I'm pretty sure this would be an exploit as I tested and retested this hypothesis by myself and the number of specific things I had to do by myself to not trigger the countdown was ridiculous On the other hand I have to wonder if this was at all intentional and I'm just missing something because why would Bungie have the shriekers spawn only after the Deathsinger starts preparing her song? With my team full we started testing these things out to locate a trigger but with five other people there was too much confusion as to what exactly triggered the countdown but after repeating this test over and over again (good bye K/D ratio) I do know for a fact that not acting aggressively in the direction of the knights/acolytes that spawn at the entrance will delay the countdown indefinitely I'd also like to note that every time I didn't trigger the countdown my attempt length was "0:00" regardless of the fact that I was playing for seven minutes (recorded) and had gotten two kills One last thing worth noting, I would run straight down the middle and jump up to the platform behind all the rubble (6:00 from the Deathsinger's chamber) and I was able to shoot the knights and acolyte's without triggering the countdown but only sometimes. This is useful because if someone can find a definitive trigger that works 100% of the time, you could possibly thin out the enemies before you get to the shriekers without the countdown starting. On the other hand, it seems like the mob is key to starting the countdown, and the shriekers won't spawn without it, so you need to keep at least a few alive in order to kill the shriekers and enter the chamber EDIT: I almost forgot, if you walk past the initial mob (no sprinting, no double jumping) the average distance I was able to cover was halfway up the stairs before anyone even noticed me. This isn't that useful, but I thought it was strange that you can literally walk past a knight without him ever paying attention to you at the start of this section.

no lamps activated does nothing special. I snuck through on my hunter with don't touch me's activated the bridge, no lamps and then went back down to explore. I'd already found the chest in the door that is elevated. Once your active the bridge you can jump normally, the chest was empty, so it was no t a seperate chest, it was simply a energy/shard chest.

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There is no more secret rooms etc, I've been outside of the map at the bridge area (before crossing it) and after the bridge and at the Crota area. If there were to be more chest etc, it won't be in a "hidden" room etc, since the only hidden room in the raid is the 2nd chest room. If there is more, it's in the beginning area, which I doubt. I think everything that can be found has been found, maybe something updates with the hard raid, but for now I think this is it.

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