HIS GRAMMAR IS TOO NICE....HE MUST BE A BUNGIE EMPLOYEE

The fact the community manager told you to "grow up" while defending his company and game is astonishing. How old are we Deege?

Completely Agree with the original poster. I am 29 so I guess maybe being around 30 gives you a different outlook. I have played computer games since I played the original Elite on the BBC B, I couldn't of dreamed of anything like Destiny then, a game where I could play with my friend who lives down the road. I guess compared to some games like say Mass Effect the story is a bit lacking, but hopefully this will be built upon. I think if Bungie/Activision wants this game to have longevity its going to need to fill a bit more in, and see this very much as a beginning. Gaming has changed, like anything that becomes popular it creates an underclass of people that become Elitist and feel they are entitled to things. Pity im on PS4 as id like to do some strikes/pvp with some more sensible people like the OP. My only frustration is the difficulty to raid when I don't know many people and my clan are all great people but mostly US based when I'm in the UK. I would love a good way to meet reasonable people to raid, but I haven't completed it yet so its hard trying to find someone to take you on (most people want people that have done it!)

People only act this way because they have the means to. Back in the day, we weren't able to talk or play w/ other people online, or even had forums to discuss the game. It's just how it is, people are mean online because they don't have to deal w/ face-to-face. I would love to play Destiny w/ others but I'm a little taken aback by the community as well. I'm 25 and a girl, I don't want to hear little kids cursing in my ear, so I just play by myself, and end up missing out on a few things :/

[quote] I've played every system you could think of and some you probably couldn't think of.[/quote] How about the NeoGeo

try playing league of legends if you think this is bad.

Bungievision deserve endless amounts of criticism for this game. If you have gamed as long as you say you have then you should know how far the gaming industry has fallen. It's to the point where we have to buy multiple DLC's just to feel like we have a complete game. Having to purchase DLC just to understand the original retail games story is bull shit. I am done with Destiny and I am so glad I didn't buy the season pass. The whole "we're still working on the DLC" is complete damage control. This game has been in the works for 5 years, and all of this has been planned for some time.

I'm 42 and I love this game. Yeah it wasn't everything I wanted it to be but what game ever is? I started gaming on Atari 2600. Pong was awesome! Anyway, I have no doubt that there will be improvements. I will be here the whole way sucking up every piece of new content. I think the biggest thing that the forum critics are missing is the fact that there is far more good than bad in the game. That and the fact that the developer are usually at war with the execs who want to push the game out as fast as possible setting impossible deadlines and causing many changes to be made along the way. For me the biggest letdown was PvP. In my 38 years of gaming and my 2 decades of playing shooters, I can say I have had enough of deathmatch, control, capture the flag, FFA. Given the multiple factions, there was so much in the way of meaningful PvP that could have integrated seamlessly into the game world as opposed to a separate, stand-alone entity like it is now. Using Shadowbane and Planetside as examples, one can see that there was a much richer direction they could have gone. As it is now. I feel like it is two games: Halo FPS and Destiny MMORPG. That being said, I think it was more of a marketing decision in order to reach a wider market. Mass appeal and all, but history has shown that by trying to mix the mouth-breathing, wannabe alpha-gamer, stat-mongers with the carebear, farming, "let's hold hands", MMORPG crowd, there will always be friction. It's like asking hardcore republicans and democrats to work together to solve a problem. So I understand why there was such a stark contrast between the two elements of the game. The other area I would like to see improvement is Patrols. They are too generic and other than sucking up rep they have little relevance unless you have a bounty for them. I'd like to see the chance for legendary patrol missions that may pop up in the same way exotic bounties pop-up except that they are acquire right at the mission beacon. These special missions can lead to legendary (not exotic) gear and/or ascendant materials and this would help out the lone wolf who plays mostly solo. Last thing, add a raid board to Tower so players can put their name up on it then go out on farm, patrol, strike, or crucible until they get a full group. This beats standing in the Tower sending out random invites or waiting for people to invite you. I have buddies I play with from time to time and they are cool guys but we are not always on at the same time so it is nice to know that I have a tool to pick up a group when they are not on. Other than those criticisms, I enjoy the game and look forward to seeing how it evolves.

Organized religion called. They want their pseudorighteous contempt back.

I totally agree with the OP, most people talk crap online because of the anonymous mask they can hide behind and 99% of them wouldn't dare to act or talk this way in RL, trust me I have met some from various guilds/clans and they wouldn't say boo to a goose lol I am 43 and have been gaming since 1982, and also sometimes shocked @ how come people can be disrespectful to each other and game developers. As gamers we have never had it so good, games look and play better than ever and it's gonna keep getting better and better and gamers should appreciate this :)