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Bearbeitet von TheDoomrider:
10/12/2014 5:52:04 PM
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A word to the Atheon "Glitch" haters
So I have seen ppl complaining about others using this tactic on Atheon by pushing him over the edge. I don't call it a glitch, just another tactic just like the spawn platform or floating rock as I like to call it on the first boss. If ppl complain about the Atheon tactic then and want to call it a glitch then the spawn platform is just as much a glitch. And if Bungie ever patch Atheon they should do the same with the floating rock. But I see no problem with leaving it as is. I think it's good that ppl are able to find different ways to complete challenges which gives tactical options.
Ppl that use the spawn platform and then refuse to use the push tactic on Atheon because it is "cheating" then I call them hypocrites.
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#Destiny
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1 AntwortenThey should fix both. Neither are really a glitch but an exploit bungee was not expecting. I do think it's cheap to use that method for beating Atheon. But w/e people will do what they want, but it should deff be fixed.
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Neither are technically a glitch but yes both are gay as -blam!-.
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3 AntwortenI don't think there going to fix it lol
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6 AntwortenDestiny has taught me one thing, I'll say. There's a lot of people who've never played an MMO or has not played anything outside of COD. Otherwise there wouldn't be so much crying about 'glitches' People are bitching about the matchmaking for Raids, and then soon they'll bitch about the Raid being too hard/easy, calling that shit now.
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1 AntwortenExploit or not, I don't like anything that makes something which is supposed to be extremely difficult, extremely easy. The way I see it, this raid was meant for six people to work together. I don't think Bungie intended for people to solo it. It makes Atheon look like a laughing stock. You can call it tactics, strategy, thinking outside of the box, a bug, an exploit or whatever you like; it's all semantics. The truth here is that hard mode now has an easy end boss, which can be beaten in less than 2 minutes by a single person. I say it should be fixed, but that's just my opinion. You have a point about the platforms though. I wouldn't mind if they addressed that too. They could perhaps setup some enemy spawns off the map, such as hobgoblins, to pester people who hide off map. Anything to add more challenge.
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[quote]So I have seen ppl complaining about others using this tactic on Atheon by pushing him over the edge. I don't call it a glitch, just another tactic just like the spawn platform or floating rock as I like to call it on the first boss. If ppl complain about the Atheon tactic then and want to call it a glitch then the spawn platform is just as much a glitch. And if Bungie ever patch Atheon they should do the same with the floating rock. But I see no problem with leaving it as is. I think it's good that ppl are able to find different ways to complete challenges which gives tactical options. Ppl that use the spawn platform and then refuse to use the push tactic on Atheon because it is "cheating" then I call them hypocrites.[/quote] Huge badass robot "Time's Conflux" Vault of Glass King gets walked like a dog off a cliff by some tiny little space wizard. Sounds like it's working as intended, no need to fix.
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It's not a glitch but it is an exploit. People need to get their terms in order. It is an exploit because Bungie made a poor level design choice where enemies can die just like players when going off ledges.
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That, and its not a glitch period. Here's why -The AI in this game is programmed to NOT die, so it will avoid grenades to avoid unnecessary damage. -This Tactic would work with ANY enemy in the game, given the right circumstances(I.E Atheon.) -So in all reality, it takes more intelligence to kill Atheon THIS way than it does to kill him 'fairly'. I've beaten the Raid on Hard many times, and I still want my Mythoclast, do I want to spend 8 hours doing it? No. Do I want to have fun? Yes! -Fight Atheon 'fair' a few times. -When You've had enough, then make him fall off.... -WOAH compromise! Now everyone be quiet and go complain about the Mythoclast or SUROS Regime.
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Im looking for someone who knows how to do this tonight. Trying to do hard mode. Lvl 29 Hunter Experienced raider Mic, exotic weapons, and ready to team up PSN WarWicked
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16 AntwortenI just laugh at people who have to do this seeing as my team can kill him within two teleports on hard mode already, filthy casuls.
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Bearbeitet von ThaBootyBandit: 10/13/2014 11:32:49 PM[quote]. Ppl that use the spawn platform and then refuse to use the push tactic on Atheon because it is "cheating" then I call them hypocrites.[/quote] This
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It isn't that easy. You have to die over and over to get your super and have to be in the perfect spot and throw 2 perfect grenades to get him off. It usually takes me 2-4 tries and about 30-40 minutes...
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Not saying you fall in this category OP, but those who typically make these kind of threads are usually ones who participate in these "glitches" and I'm pretty certain at some point it will get fixed.
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5 AntwortenI'd like them to patch it . the exploit makes the raid to easy an its not ment to be. I mean I'll use it as long its there. Who won't lol but I'd still like to see it fixed. Just seems stupid that a huge time god like boss can be killed becuase he's to stupid to look behind him before he walks over a cliff lol.
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2 AntwortenIn all honesty, it's Bungie's fault. They should have realized he may fall off that edge. Simple way to patch it though, just make him take no pushback from damage. They could patch the floating platform by spawning an VERY strong enemy there that will only groundpound people that are on the platform. I think they should patch both, to be honest. I'd like people who get the "Hard" achievement to get it the way it's intended.
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5 AntwortenYeah but it's cheap. You got a at least admit that. The thing is that there is a mechanic within the game that allows you to beat Aetheon, and that is the intended method and challenge. Pushing him off the edge isn't technically a glitch. Aetheon is just, apparently, as susceptible to gravity as we are lol. But it is a cheap move and not the designed way to beat him, which is what you're supposed to do. That's where the stipulation comes in. We any video games because there is a designed way to progress through them which is, normally, some sort of challenge of our wits. Even open world games or non linear fights have their limitations that the player must over come. Pushing a boss off a cliff, unless that's the only way to beat him, is like mixing player knowledge and character knowledge in D&D. In the gaming world it's cheating the game.
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1 AntwortenI agree with you but I think it's kind of cheap killing a raid boss in less than a min. Still I would do it though lol
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7 AntwortenWas this patched? I had a team trying to do it for over 2 hours and he didn't fall off.
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They should patch where if he dies by falling 2 Atheons spawn back fur you to kill. Pushing them off gives them jetpacks
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2 AntwortenBearbeitet von Cyanide: 10/13/2014 5:57:10 PMThey should just patch that if health does a dramatic drop in a sudden instant then loot you get at the end is disabled
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I've never killed him in that fashion. Would I? Yes. I know and play the mechanics as it is "intended". I also remember how frustrating the fight was on my first attempt. That said, I'm sure they will eventually patch it. However, I will be a bit angry if they decide to patch the glitch before they fix the end screen for the raid.
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Does not matter my raid team drop ATHEON in three portal runs minimum sure we can push him of the edge but we like to earn our shit lol
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4 AntwortenThe problem I have with it. It's a tactic that trivializes the fight (which is what I want). BUT only a certain class can do it. This creates a side-effect. Now anyone who plays a warlock will have priority over people who play other classes. Which is what your seeing happen right now.
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The top complaint is "Only trash players that can't beat him push him off" False. We easily do it, pushing him off is quicker.
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If I can get knocked off cliffs, why can't he?
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Maybe we should start using swords and sticks to fight wars. Drones are so OP.....
