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Bearbeitet von l Ellz l:
10/7/2014 2:05:38 PM
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There must be a reasonable solution to this alt farming...
So you can basically create 3 characters and do 3x Raid 3x weeklys and dailys but in general get 3 x the materials then just pool them onto one character..is this okay?
I would love to be able to do those 3 x everything without having to level up 3 characters...
the only thing that gripes me is the fact you can trade materials across ARTIFICIALLY boosting character progression, instead of earning it.
Edit:
Before you post some knucklehead response,
I'm not saying I'm 100% correct but I've just pointed in a clear way my opinion on the subject, which creating Alts with the sole purpose of transferring mats via farming the missions, how is that acceptable gameplay? or intended gameplay?
People argue that I'm being lazy, but how is it lazy to want to earn the materials in a fairer way rather than getting your friends to boost you on your alt through a mission? Rather than just being patient and waiting for the reset?
Instead of allowing people to do 3x whatever here's a more stern option:
Materials are NOT tradeable and if you trade any gear across it loses the chance to be broken into ascendant shards.
What is so fair about allowing someone with 3 alts being able to do the raid 3 times with loot and the heroics/dailies ALL With loot, and the guys that don't want an alt can do it ONCE?
Okay argue yourselves out of this one:
This whole alt thing you all have going on, is exactly like if they allowed you to level up exotic weapons whilst not having them equipped.
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3 AntwortenThank god I found your post I was running low on tears.
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I'm not seeing the problem here. And how is it not "earning" progression? If I'm running the raid twice a week, then yes, that is actually earning materials to use for my upgrades. You chose not to level an alt while other people chose to put in the effort to level alts for extra chances at loot.
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3 AntwortenIt's fair because everyone can do it and are suppose to do it that's why your able to to obtain other classes armor it's made for you to skill multiple classes and multiple skill sets to defeat certain bosses easier About the materials think of this if your using all your materials on one character your not using them on the other.if your making three times on one charector and 0 on the other 2 doesn't that even it out you know like perfectly I think your problem is your still playing another game not destiny it's a different game bro adapt
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the sad thing is bungie will do something similar to what the OP suggests. Activision/whoever always caters to the whiners even though it in no way effects them. I used to be an avid d3ros player, and every build, legendary, etc that was considered strong was always subject to this, which is a big reason why I left. If you release an item as intended, and it is as effective as intended, but because the other items are crappy as heck, that doesn't mean you nerf that item but it always happens. In destinys case, only iron banner might be an argument but even still most people would probably want to farm rep on one character for that because it is so difficult in comparison to other factions. People who whined about the loot cave were told over and over that it doesnt affect them, play how you want, etc but they got what they wanted.[b] I didn't even use the loot cave but could care less if someone wanted to spend the next few years doing something so boring. [/b] also TC, what about people who legimately enjoy playing as three characters? They can only play as one at a time, so does that mean their progression should be 1/3 the rate as it is if they only had one character? if what you suggests happens, that will hurt people in this situation. There will be very little incentive to even make more than one character if shards/materials cannot be shared as anytime spend getting shards on one character cannot be spend on another.
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Yes, you can go outside. The universe isn't actually in danger.
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This is actually one of the better features in destiny..
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remove caps and we'll talk about it
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I'm pretty indifferent about it actually. Who cares what others do? So they reach lvl 30 before you or me... so? I prefer games to last longer than two months in my console before I'm done with it. It makes no difference to you in PvE, even in the Iron Banner, it means very little. So if the hardcore, parent's basement, single people want to play the same shit each week over and over again, let them. It's like the people who maxed out Diablo characters out the gate. OK, makes co-op an easier feat.
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Ok I will attempt to discuss the whole leveling up an exotic without it being equipped. I have two hunters both level twenty. I enjoy the raid so I like being able to run it more than once for loot. I have several friends who raid so this is how I get to enjoy that with them as well as have my chance at in game loot. I do not see the issue with using both characters to level up gear. Destiny gave us a vault and did not make weapons class specific like some of the armor is. So allowing a person to switch 7 pieces of gear between up to 3 characters is simply a matter of player preference. If you enjoy that grind and want to max out items asap then destiny seems to allow that option. But if you do not like the idea of character swapping, what is your stance on using one weapon to complete a bounty and then swapping to a new weapon to level up that one up instead of the one you used to complete the bounty? I am not trying to argue here just curious on what you think?
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Seriously, shut up.
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This is as if wow didn't have soul bound gear and u made 10 warriors and did the best raid times...that's just redic
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Bearbeitet von forsythemichael: 10/7/2014 6:35:39 PMThis is another main tactic that many mmo gamers use. There is no problem with it. You still have to do 3x the work. Plus you don't have to have a friend boost you through missions. They aren't that hard to begin with and doesnt take long to get to lvl 20, just doing missions and bounty you can get to 20 in less than a day
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1 AntwortenI have a character for each class. I send shards and energy to my main. Sure, you can think of it as cheating or whatever you want, but when I come to level my second character, I'll still have to re-earn the stuff I took away for the first. So really, it doesn't make a difference.
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[quote] the only thing that gripes me is the fact you can trade materials across ARTIFICIALLY boosting character progression, instead of earning it. People argue that I'm being lazy, but how is it lazy to want to earn the materials in a fairer way rather than getting your friends to boost you on your alt through a mission? Rather than just being patient and waiting for the reset? What is so fair about allowing someone with 3 alts being able to do the raid 3 times with loot and the heroics/dailies [/quote]
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You're the only other person I've seen with the mark. Friend
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It's not cheating because the person who leveled alts is working three times as hard as you per week for the gear. They do the raid, weekly, and nightfall three times instead of once a week and in essence like I said work harder. This is catered to the hardcore players rather than the casuals who are trying to gear at an accerlerated rate.
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1 AntwortenBearbeitet von Grandmaster Sen: 10/7/2014 6:03:49 PMYes, it is okay. More work = more rewards. More elaborate: Players are still doing to work to earn their raid rewards. They're getting those rewards regardless, they should be able to choose to evenly divide them among their characters or pool them together.
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2 AntwortenI made one of each class so there is no way for me to trade armor or anything to my other chars. I think its silly when people play three of the same guy. Boooorrrring.
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are you serious? people put in alot of work for these characters and rewards and you wanna make that work pointless? go trade your game in and get off these forums if you arent gonna be helpful
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Bearbeitet von Gweeto91: 10/7/2014 5:03:19 PMI find shards all the time by simply playing my 1 character. Can I fully upgrade a new piece of gear in 1 day of getting it? Rarely. It takes a few days but that's the point of it. If people want to level multiple toons thinking its somehow speeding the progress of their main then let them. I've been playing one character since launch and am 1 raid piece away from 30 and I have not farmed or transfered anything from another character. One thing I do not get is how people complain about getting repeat raid loot...dismantle it and boom you have 2 or 3 more shards or energy. Who needs 15 different exotics and legendaries? No one. If you like the bonus stats of gear then keep it. If you don't ditch it for shards. Very simple. Hell buy the exotic every week from xur for 13 coins and get 3 or more shards depending on coins. You can get like 6 shards from him if he isn't selling exotics you like. Nothing worthwhile to spend marks on? Buy gear for 65 marks from vendors and shard those. Plus another 2 every day from daily mission. And another few from the daily event. Also if I'm not mistaken the weeklys also reward materials. Its much easier than people think. Just use all your resources.
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This has been going on since vanilla WoW and is perfectly acceptable. If it weren't, none of these game developers would have implemented a shared vault for all three characters on your account or an in-game mail system (WoW) that allowed you to mail items to another one of your characters. Seems like your complaint is you don't want to create additional high level characters to be able to do the Weekly Heroic/Nightfall and Raid three times in a week. Don't have time? I can understand that. Is it fair? It sure is. Those people, myself included, don't work off your schedule. We work off our own. [quote]This whole alt thing you all have going on, is exactly like if they allowed you to level up exotic weapons whilst not having them equipped.[/quote] How is this exactly the same? In order to farm, you must play that character. In order to raid or run the weekly, you must play that character. How is leveling a weapon without using it the same? You need to go back and re-calculate your logic. This is not the same. Further.... [quote]ARTIFICIALLY boosting character progression, instead of earning it[/qoute] What is artificial about playing another character? They still need XP to get to 20, so that would require that you play them. I have a Level 17 Hunter who has a near full set of Legendary items waiting in the vault. He'll be around Light Level 25-26 once he hits 20, however. In order to get him there, I have to play him. The gear I got for him was received from Legendary Engrams pre-patch by running the Weekly and Daily Heroics on the highest difficulty. Was it hard? Nope. Did I earn it? Some would argue otherwise. Regardless. I played the game. I got the loot. Is it my fault it was for another class? No. Take that up with Bungie. Then again, any game with a random loot table does this. Bungie is not the first and certainly won't be the last. Do I feel your lazy? Hell no! Is this your opinion? It sure the -blam!- is! I'm all for debate, but there is no debate here. Just crying that you can't do something others are. The problem is, you can. It's your choice. No one is twisting your arm.
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Your new character would have been lv20 already if you didn't post this shit.
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Stop crying if people want to do this then that's upto them why should it bother you
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I dont have a problem with this and I only have one character. The main benefit would be weapons which who cares. 2nd materials dont come easy anyways, its hard to tell what kind youll get at the end. 3rd i have no desire spending all that time getting 6 people together. Then completing vault of glass. Then to only repeat that process 2 more times every week. For all that work the benifits are not worth it in my book.
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I get tons of mats and coins and motes just by playing the game with my only character. The only reason I have Alts is for holding emblems and shaders. Running the game with multiple toons is just another way for ppl to play the game. It's perfectly fair if someone wants to take the time to do it
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Guess it depends on the person. I see nothing wrong with that. I mean my Hunter is rocking Thorn, that I got with my Titan. I intend to use all my Characters.
