I am going to explain this as if I were speaking to a crowd of idiots which apparently is the case. Nova Bomb - Kills everything in a wide area and cannot be stopped once it is started. User becomes basically invulnerable and kills everything nearby instantly. Smash - Kills everything in a wide area and cannot be stopped once it is started. User becomes basically invulnerable and kills everything nearby instantly. Bladedancer - Has the ability to create kills, but can be stopped by well placed grenade or by teamwork. Cry harder. Bladedancer and Gunslinger can be stopped. The other supers like Nova Bomb and Smash are guaranteed kills every single time. Just because you are anally frustrated by them does not mean they need to be adjusted.

Fists of havoc require you to be on top of the enemies you want dead which puts t You at risk to either get killed before you get to attempt to use it or dying while using it if you don't have the unstoppable perk or what ever. Nova bomb might actually be the best for quick double kills since it has range to it but it can be missed/dodged because it has a long cast time then the orb still has to travel. I don't even have encore for blade dancer yet and it is already good in the same situations as foh and nova bomb its not as amazing as I first thought but its still really strong. Thing with it is you have to use it in close quarters that also true for foh not quite true for nova bomb. If you use it and try to run down a long corridor at a group of enemies it's not going to go well but if you use it on for example a b point coming in from the side it's devastating as nobody is watching that side and the reason I still believe this super to be op is that I can clear out a room but after that I can still leave and chase down a random person and kill him. No other super kills, then kills some more (excluding after shocks since you are dumb if you die to that). They need a shorter timer for the super I'm saying this and I have yet to get encore which if you don't know increases the duration of the super with each kill I also have the third eye mask for when I do hit 20 which makes each swing cost less energy so I swing more for a longer super not even op at all. Gold gun is a fine super to me it will get you pick offs and requires good accuracy. The gunslinger seems to have shit everything if you are an actually skilled player gunslinger is the best class to play in my eyes. High risk high reward. Warlock (both classes) is very noob friendly because all the abilities are very easy to use. Titan striker can be gambled early to played aggressive to try and get an early super as that can be a huge boost for the team. But mostly you have to control the flow with your super and grenades. Defender is the most simple class you do nothing for about 3 mind then you lock down an objective for the duration of your super and hope people try to kill you, also that they don't super you and put back to being useless. Force barrier can be good. But having no range on your melee normally mean they die to your shot gun or you die. [spoiler]Also a a huge fan of ward of dawn if you see one on a control point no matter whose it is your teams or not, just -blam!-ing get away from it defender does nothing with team mates standing inside the bubble while other objectives are being taken if you leave enemies are more likely to come and try to take it and rebuild the super meter of your defender. It just makes no sense to have three people doing nothing on an already captured objective. So just so everybody knows ANYBODY who enters my bubble at ANY TIME is going to get their shit PUNCHED IN so if you get hit in a bubble GET OUT!! Leave, the best thing to do is get as far away from it as possible other wise you are simply wasting time. Incase I was unclear this goes for friendly or enemy wards stay the -blam!- away from them.[/spoiler]

and all titans whine about it while having a FOH slam that NOBODY can counter if its near you...atleast you can counter the arc blades by running back while shooting..now stfu already.

Dude we barely get a defense boost and it takes 1 hit to kill just like every other super so tell me how it's OP, titans got a defense bubble that is pretty much a death trap to anyone who walks inside it and they're health is doubled

What if I told you I use Gunslinger in PvP?? o.0 Stop crying about hunter, nova bombs, or the titan smash. Ya know the titan is the only class that can't seem to be cut down at close range when the titan smash animation starts, no one blinks an eye. Get 2-3 kills with a bladedancer and everyone loses their mind.

What button do you click to clear an entire team as a blade dancer? My primary is one, is fully leveled in thebladedancer skill tree, but I don't have a perk to kill a team with one move. Now, if I'm playing PvP against a bunch of people who don't understand the mechanics of the game and for some DUMB reason crowd their entire team into one room, then with 9-12 clicks of my number I could clear them all. But that has NEVER happened. However, I've had 3-4 people on my own team taken out by a kamikaze Titan who jumps in and "Thunder Fists" the entire area in one button click - several times. Whatever challenges you as a player is what is OP. In my experience, the most tactical players choose hunter or warlock. Because the majority of hunters are also the most tactical, we tend to only use ou supers when we get the most carnage. I only use mine 1-2 times a match at most. And some matches I never use it because I don't have a chance to take out multiple enemies. I find Warlocks OP. Their Void power with AoE and shield buff kicks my ass. But instead of complaining I'm trying to find how to counter it. In closing, if you don't want a hunter to get you with his knife, stay out of melee range. I've been killed NUMEROUS times with my super active with one shot to the head from a scout, sniper, or even pulse rifle.

It's not so much overpowered as it just has so much going for it compared to what other supers have. It's not a oneshot super like the Titan and Warlock have, it's a timed duration. They also get substantial damage mitigiation while active, I've unloaded a full clip unto a hunter's head using said super only to barley make a dent. Third, each time they swing their blade they a get a quick lunge that is almost like a mini blink. If the other supers had equivilent perks to the arc blade it wouldn't be an issue.

Sorry to be the odd one out but I play as a warlock and I don't think that blade arc is op you just shoot em in the head with a hand cannon like 3 or 4 times or in my case just use blink to get the hell out of there and shoot them in the ass followed by a swift grenade

so basically the only usable quality of the blade dancer class is OP? ok well first off we can't throw multiple (actually useful) grenades and and super that dose more damage. Or shoulder bash for a one hit kill from a melee? at least hunters can be killed during their super use unlike Titans or warlocks. just saying

I see titans/warlocks use their supers just before they're about to die way more than blade dancers. When I die to a blade dancer it's usually when I see them running at me from a distance, not when I have them down to practically no health in a gunfight.

I dont use my blade dancer because its op, i use it because it highlights how shit you people are.

1. Bungie made the game that way, and it is mine and I use it... So go cry a river on another forum you little tit. DO NOT LIKE IT JUST DO NOT EVEN PLAY! oh OP, whayy OP, aww OP... Your skill is simply lacking THE ANSWER IS: MOVE OUT OF THE FNG WAY! JUMP, DOUBLE JUMP! You have all kinds of counter measures USE THEM!

I can't stop warlock or Titan supers without some skill on my part (ie fast as blam headshots or crazy dodge skills). Why should they get to stop my arcblade without using the same skills? I die to supers all the time. I kill with supers all the time. I get killed while using supers all the time. It happens. Q frickety Q, babies!