shotgun i think should be point blank range only basically. as for auto rifle, not really needed. hand cannon should be 1 headshot, 1 body shot for a kill. scout rifle 2 headshots and a body for a kill (right now its about 3 headshots).

[quote]In my opinion it's too soon to say, it sounds like they're listening to complaints a little too much when it comes to the crucible. I myself have used scout rifles and auto rifles, and only up close will the scout rifle typically lose to an auto rifle though I have won some of those types of encounters, but scout rifles definitely have the longer range advantage. So based off of how these weapons are supposed to work, I think they do fulfill their purposes. What do you guys think? I think for the most part, they need to give that more thought and focus on the disconnecting issues. It's not like there are weapons out there that hand you high k/d's with minimal effort. Headshots are still an incentive in pvp.[/quote] This comes from an auto user. Also a Unholy Triad user (Sniper, Shotty, Fusion) Yes and no. Autos have right now stats that are the realm of pulse and even realm of scouts. I have seen Blue Autos with better stats than my Blue Scouts and Pulse. Shotguns should be more the realm of close range. I feel shotgun has slightly more range than they should right now. But shotties are more of an issue because of how prevalent special ammo is.

I don't see it as much of a problem since most encounters tend to take place at short to medium range. Only on maps like Bastion and the one on the moon, I can see it making a difference. The other maps are smaller and therefore so is the range of encounters.

Autos and Shotguns dominate pvp. I'd like to see some changes to the Fusion Rifles as well... as after this Patch, I see MANY people using them.