Tell me, how is the hunter overpowered? lets analyze this very closely. Golden gun, you get 3 shots to get as many kills as possible, not only that, you are on a time limit. you get absolutely no defensive bonuses, you dont get anything to help you survive, if anything when people see a flaming hunter they all shoot it. you die very quickly, also, its not instant, it take a full second to summon the gun, the entire time you are completely vulnerable. BladeDancer, Hmm, NO it is NOT a one shot to anything. when a titan has a overshield from the bubble or defender melee ability, it takes 2 hits to kill. when a warlock has sunsinger active, it takes 2 hits, 3 if they use the armor bonus. this skill does give defensive boosts, lets go over what they are. you get a resistance to arc damage. thats it. so the only time it helps, is if the other person uses arc damage, like arc grenades, or another bladedancer ability. lets go over one more thing, Titan fists of havoc, we CANNOT tank through it, it kills us instantly no matter what. the only reason you could possibly think we tank through it is if we jump out of the way, which we can because we are agile. we have little to no armor. so lets list a way to kill a blade dancer Shotgun in middle of lunge Shotgun while they are activating it Use the titans one hit melee, that is ALWAYS an insta kill, and yes this means you can run straight at a hunter in bladedancer mode, then do your charge and it WILL kill them, always kills me 1 sniper bullet in the head, or 2 in the body WILL kill us very easily Golden gun can one shot us as well. The warlocks nova bomb kills us very well, but we can easily blink away from it. Melee hit us 2 times from normal melee damage and we die. Stand inside a bubble with a active bonus enabled and we can hardly kill you unless we use razors edge. shoot us with any heavy weapon and we die very fast. shoot us the normal amount of time with any gun and we die, because we do NOT have defensive buffs. the only thing you could possibly think is defensive buff, is there is a skill to give us a LITTLE of our health back for a kill. but it requires getting a kill. hmm, it would seem that it is very easy to kill us, regardless of you attempting to say we are OP. now lets analyze the other supers. Fists of Havoc, Titans get a super that not only activates instantly, but also makes them near invincible while they are using it. so its basically a guaranteed kill, or 6 kills, if you are anywhere within 15 feet of enemies. they dont even have to be on the ground since this attack kills both ground and air. Ward of Dawn, hmm i would say this is a tossup, because in one way it is very easy to avoid, say in clash, but in control it is very OP, because you can stand inside it and be close to invincible if you know what you are doing and use a shotgun. also, it can give defensive boosts to EVERYONE inside it on your team, OR damage boosts. Nova Bomb, not only can you very easily and almost instantly kill an entire team, but you can do it without exposing yourself by shooting it around a corner with a perk that makes them track enemies. can you say easy kills? Sunsinger, do not even try to complain about sunsinger, i watch so many people use sunsinger and DOMINATE the leaderboards. so what if you are vulnerable while using it?? thats exactly what its like for a hunter using EITHER of thier specials. EXCEPT you get a defensive boost with sunsinger, AND you can even resurrect yourself with it and then have it active! PLUS it is the FASTEST recharging ability there is! so to claim hunters are OP, is a completely invalid statement and has no foundation. NONE of the classes are OP, you want to know why? BECAUSE THEY ALL HAVE WEAKNESESS!! it just so happens that hunters are fast and can dodge, because they cant take that much damage, THEY ARE WEAK AND HARD TO USE! but if you use them correctly you can get easy kills, IT TAKES SKILL. and no i dont just use hunter, i use all classes, i play as all of them, i max ranked all characters in BETA, and plan on doing it again in the real game. they all have advantages, and they all have weaknesses, stop complaining and get good at the game. its not my fault if you cant set up your character well, or if you can use him very good. if you suck, then go for a titan, because they take the least skill to use and practically hand out free kills to you

Yes bladedancer is sooo god damn cheap

Actually I am about to explain a way that makes them seem completely UN OP. . . Defender subclass: Ward of Light+ armor of light and (optional) + forcebarrier: NOT A DARN THING ANYBODY CAN DO except launch a super INSIDE the shield. I taken 3 direct hits from the archblade with that combination and still killed the hunter with plenty of health remaining. forcebarrier was gone though.

Perhaps not OP in the general term, but they do have a HIGHLY advantageous super that can be used without skill, and under a skilled player I can see why this would be popularly flagged as OP. Yes, the hunter may be "squishy", but this is not the same concept it is in RPGs in regards to warriors and wizards. The difference is there, but in crucible it is NOT a major difference between 1 shotting a hunter over a warlock or titan. And the super takes MAJOR advantage of ANY kind of lag. I have seen numberous matches where a bladedancer running around shanking people, and lagging, decimated an entire map, and while everyone playing visibly saw the hunter take rockets, melee hits, etc., never once lost shield, much less came close to dying. Likewise, unless you have a good distance between you and the bladedancer and have time and range to get off a high dmg headshot (which is nigh impossible) the auto-targeting super will win out. I firmly believe this super should not be an auto-target you can button mash in terms of balance, however, this is strictly opinionated from my viewing of the game.

How are hunters mistaken to be OP. I don't get it.... -.-

According to all the whiners on this forum, every class is OP.

GOOD hunters can blink in under gunfire and one hit melee kill a Titan. I mean, I don't have a huge problem with less experienced hunters, but some have mastered the blink and melee. Don't know if it's op or just need to appreciate the skills. But it's annoying.

hunters have the lowest health and deal the lowest damage. Just try playing in rumble against a bunch of titans and warlocks lmao

>Lowest armor and recovery, able to be killed quickly >Has supers that require aim, skill, and positioning, unlike voidwalker and striker where push button=instant safe kills no no they are not over powered

Hunters are NOT OP, it is a SUPER CHARGED POWER. To further make a point, I will say this.. just because some guys know to catch light orbs and then get super charged fast, then own and get on the leaderboards, and everyone QQ is a joke. To date the largest multi kill I have ever seen was a Titan smash that wiped the team out. Secondly, you guys have no idea how many times I have been shotguned right out of my supercharging blade dancer by noobs with shotguns. Blue, Purple, Orange... hint hint. Anyways, I am so sick and tired of fps games getting ruined by people QQ about this or that. Stop picking apart a game that took an extremely long time to develop. Do not try and make the Dev's or PR team second guess the masterpiece known as Destiny. Every time I see a QQ thread, I already know your just terrible. OP is right, blade dancer is balanced. Maybe if you didn't run into gun fire like rambo you would do better... just a thought. I really hope the QQ threads about this and that, and everyone wants free better loot. Nah.. that is not gaming, that is called lame. Before everyone starts QQ about bladedancer and that is the theme of the no skill player threads. Go make a bladedancer, and watch how many shotguns you eat in your face.

Yeah, I am tired of people bitching about the hunter being too over powered. Both supers are limited more than the other classes because they do not have an area of effect for damage. They can also be interrupted very easily. I think the people bitching are only doing so because the player is just that good. I say this because I am not that good in PvP and have a hard time getting more than one kill with either the GG or the Arc Blade.

Bladedancer is one problem but I won't ever use OP since its a useless term. If Arc Blade wasn't so auto aim then it will be better for crucible. I have used it and learned all you have to do is go trigger happy and you will get a kill. I think it will be better if they take off the auto aim but gave extra damage resistance while you are using it.

Not as op as titans just meleeing everyone and warlocks throwing their tracking grenades.

blade-dancer on close range maps is easily the best super in the game right now, you're not squishy. you get 66% damage reduction to regular damage and 50% to crits. even a shot gun to the chest or a rocket will not kill you if you have full hp up. Rank 37th in the world for crucible as of a couple days ago so believe me, i've had my fair share of attempts to try and find something that would work. List to me right now any other super that can string together 4-6 kills consistently with every use?