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Bearbeitet von Cleric Blake:
8/31/2014 2:06:40 PM
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Why do people care so much about the FPS?
Can someone explain to me why the game being at 30 FPS is so horrendous? The game still runs smooth even with 30 FPS. I just don't understand why people would go as far to cancel pre orders because of it. My theory is a lot of gamers nowadays are spoiled when it comes to things like this. Look at games like Pokemon. As everyone knows the graphics aren't exactly next gen but people loved those games unconditionally. People even still play Fire Red and Leaf Green today (If you don't understand what I'm getting at, I'm saying that games with bad graphics can still go down in history). If someone understands why we can't just put those senses of entitlement aside and just play the game for what it is, please comment down below.
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#Destiny
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I don't care about fps, I play megaman all the time
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The point isn't that the game is 30 fps or 60fps. Or the fact that it may be noticeable. The point is that the game is going to be fun either way, and some people are just actin spoiled because they don't get the fps they want. The game is going to be just as fun in 30 fps, and if you canceled your pre order over that I am sorry for you, cause your going to miss out on the greatest game.
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Bearbeitet von Space Monkey 8: 9/1/2014 3:35:20 PMThe game is not smooth at 30 FPS. There's some people who can't notice the difference between 60 and 30 FPS. For those people 30 seems smooth because they can't notice the difference.
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2 AntwortenThe reason it's 30 fps is because last gen consoles, also..... 30 fps vs 60 fps is a noticeable difference. 30 fps looks old and choppy.
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1 AntwortenBearbeitet von Der_Peevmeister: 9/1/2014 3:20:48 PMOops O.o
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1 AntwortenBearbeitet von Jazy: 9/1/2014 6:28:16 AMGameplay always comes first ,and guess what fps is a part of gameplay. Faster fps allows a faster response time. What games did in the past are irrelevant to games coming out in the future. Simply stating that a game was great and it didn't have X feature is irrelevant. The whole reason of buying new technology is to increase performance. If that isn't true for you then continue to play on your Super Nintendo. 30 fps isn't a game breaker ,but it is disappointing especially for a shooter.
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9 AntwortenGraphics matter. Every new game is supposed to be better. Games are supposed to use the system capabilities to their max potential. Games like pokemon or Final Fantasy 7 are awesome and when they came out they were cutting edge graphics and innovative. We play them nostalgically. They were masterpieces of their time and therefore worth playing today. You can't be a masterpiece of this generation of games without being cutting edge in all areas. Including story, gameplay, AND graphics. Great games will be innovative in just 2 areas but the masterpieces must have all 3. We should be moving on to 4k resolution at 60+ fps. Not having to work hard to get 1080p at 30fps which is like a minimum standard.
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Even more shinier. ;)
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Bearbeitet von RyjinSama: 9/1/2014 7:04:44 AMI went to school for animation... (Dropped out to peruse something more rewarding for me) Realistically 25fps is all something needs to give the illusion of movement... And that's if it's shot on 2s, meaning it's actually more like 12.5fps on singles, so 30 is still good. After that every additional frame makes things look more fluid, but not everyone will actually see the difference. I personally can't tell the difference between 20-30, 30-40, 40-50, 50-60... If I saw a side by side of 30-60... Maybe, MAYBE, I'd be able to see a significant difference. In my opinion- the higher frame rate, though arguably better, is just one more thing for people to bitch about. Because 30 will still look great. EDIT: After reading some of the other posts and doing some reading, I've never really thought of this as a response time issue but the difference between 3-4/60ths of a second or 8-10/60ths of a second in responsive time delay for a controller is (.05 and .133 of a second) are so ridiculously trivial for most of us... I still can't imagine it's a real issue either.
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Thank -blam!-ing you. I've always played CoD and so I guess you could say I'm used to 60 FPS, but Destiny's 30 FPS was FINE. It's not a big deal at all. I don't know why people are so buthurt about it.
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I've been playing at 30FPS for years and have been having plenty of fun with gaming through it all. The destiny beta included. I've also played 60fps games and it hasn't spoiled my experience with 30 games at all
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4 AntwortenUh... I don't care how pretty something looks. I care that the frame is good. 30FPS sucks compared to 60FPS. Yeah, there are games where it doesn't make too big a difference, but in Destiny, it would. You could easily have more fun in a game like Destiny with a higher FPS. Destiny can easily achieve it, but Bungie is stupid and they're going with parity to make the game be as close to the ps3 and 360 as possible. Aside from slight graphical updates, there are no incentives to get it on the ps4 over the ps3, really. Look at The Last of Us. It was 30FPS on PS3, 60FPS on PS4. A lot of people that kept saying "frames don't matter", noticed HUGE difference in the way the game played, and they said they could never go back to playing it in 30FPS. Thing is, The Last of Us doesn't change as much as a game like Destiny would if it had higher FPS. I'm still getting Destiny, but every time I think about the 30FPS, I always get upset, knowing the game could have played better if Bungie stopped with the parity crap.
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1 AntwortenFor the most part, people just want better functionality. I've been around gaming too long to care about Frames and if anyone mentions it I typically tell them to look back into the past and shut up. FPS means more to them for the experience and the experience has never been anything less then one thing: enjoying the fact you are playing a video game. Not the graphics, not the gameplay, not anything else besides the fact you are doing something, in the game, that you enjoy doing. It's the passion which makes or breaks developers (along with some competitiveness and luck), but that much has not changed for 30 years. Unfortunately we have worse and more trolls then back then too... But that's a generation thing...
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I agree I dont rly care for FPS,as long its not under 30 xD
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4 AntwortenI am curious, and forgive my ignorance, but was the beta at 30 fps?
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[quote]Can someone explain to me why the game being at 30 FPS is so horrendous? The game still runs smooth even with 30 FPS. I just don't understand why people would go as far to cancel pre orders because of it. My theory is a lot of gamers nowadays are spoiled when it comes to things like this. Look at games like Pokemon. As everyone knows the graphics aren't exactly next gen but people loved those games unconditionally. People even still play Fire Red and Leaf Green today (If you don't understand what I'm getting at, I'm saying that games with bad graphics can still go down in history). If someone understands why we can't just put those senses of entitlement aside and just play the game for what it is, please comment down below.[/quote] I like your choice of vocabulary. :)
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Bearbeitet von TuffMelon: 9/1/2014 5:49:20 AM30fps is often considered horrendous because most of the time its the best the game can manage. which often means (unless its like 40fps, but dips to 30, which is why they framelocked it) youll see frame rate loss at times. Its just a case of the players wanting performance over prettiness. Devs seem to intent on making a beautiful, sparkly, unintuitive boring game these days.
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I've been playing counterstrike source at 120fps since 2003 anything below 60fps just doesn't feel smooth.... But since its a multiplatform game I can't have expected them to have it optimized at 60fps based on the last gen of consoles hardware (ps3/X360)
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Well, you have to understand that a lot of guardians on b.net are actually olympic athletes--who live their entire lives in 60 frames per second. What seems like life to us is often slow motion to them. I have heard a number of them had to buy new controllers because they wore out the springs in their old ones considering how quickly they would press the buttons. Not making fun of anyone, just joking of course.
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2 AntwortenAs long as it's not a 16 bit game I'm fine. On the other hand 16 bit games are cool so never mind I withdraw my post.
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Bearbeitet von aBitofBat: 8/31/2014 7:39:10 PMAt 30fps your controller input is polled once per frame. In other words the controller input is updated 30 times in one second. This of course assumes there are no dips in the frame rate. Now if you double the frame rate to 60fps, your controller input will be polled 60 times a second. This increase in the input update will make the game much more responsive. Frame rate and controller input are linked and the greater the frame rate, the smoother and more responsive the game will feel. Some people consider this to be important, others do not. Many developers tend to target 30fps, as this allows them to push the graphics further.
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Shooter pvpers are the group that has always cared about fps. I don't play many competitive games, so I don't have much of an opinion. I will say that even though graphics aren't the most important thing in gaming, you should expect graphics and performance to improve on a next gen console. That's why they make new consoles. Improved performance. Can't begrudge anyone for having that expectation.
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[quote]Can someone explain to me why the game being at 30 FPS is so horrendous? The game still runs smooth even with 30 FPS. I just don't understand why people would go as far to cancel pre orders because of it. My theory is a lot of gamers nowadays are spoiled when it comes to things like this. Look at games like Pokemon. As everyone knows the graphics aren't exactly next gen but people loved those games unconditionally. People even still play Fire Red and Leaf Green today (If you don't understand what I'm getting at, I'm saying that games with bad graphics can still go down in history). If someone understands why we can't just put those senses of entitlement aside and just play the game for what it is, please comment down below.[/quote] Have you seen cod ghosts gameplay? It is a game changer for people who want to buy.
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3 AntwortenLmfao why is it a sense of entitlement, with increasing and better technology, we expect better things for our money Don't forget, we're PAYING for this Also there's a huge difference between 60 FPS and 30 FPS. Ever played COD for a while, then tried to play Halo? It looks horrendous
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Once you've become accustomed to 60 fps going back to 30 is a HUGE step backwards. If you don't know the difference then it's something you'll just have to see for yourself. Pick any CoD game from 2007 - present on a last gen system and you'll see that it runs smoother than Destiny's PvP on a PS4 and Xbone. I played Titanfall on the Xbone immediately after the Destiny beta and felt like I went back to the future, so ya, it makes all the difference in the world.
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Bearbeitet von Ultron: 8/31/2014 2:43:30 PMPokemon must be 60 FPS or I cancel my pre-order
