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Bearbeitet von angry0lbgrampa:
5/30/2014 5:41:13 PM
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So I believe I have found a solution to a problem.
I believe the death penalty should be removed, and all crimes committed should be paid back through forced labor.
In other words, bring back the Chain gangs.
It will teach criminals to work, the work they do will cover their cost of imprisonment. They could be put to work building roads, hospitals, universities. The scope of such an undertaking could transform society. We could effectively eliminate crime on the streets and fix our decaying infrastructure.
I'd say even offer them apprenticeship programs. By this I mean allow them to work under carpenters, and masons. Teach them a trade so that when their labor dues are in they have a certificate they can take to the work force. Also, keep some of the better workers on as foremen who can relate to the criminals teaching them how good it was having learned a trade they could use outside of crime.
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Hear hear, it makes no practical sense to have to spend so much on inmates that do nothing when they could be providing cheap labor.
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4 AntwortenWhat happens when they lace the cement with explosives? You just killed thousands of sick patients
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Bearbeitet von BaconShelf: 5/31/2014 10:32:20 PMWe can't just give them dynamite to build railways. Look what happened to the NCR! [spoiler]I believe in an eye for an eye. [/spoiler]
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Bearbeitet von Spilled Milk: 5/31/2014 9:15:52 PMForced slavery? Especially considering the fact that there is such inordinate "justice" in this country, it will manifest itself rather dangerously. (We have potholes... Better go find some vulnerable suckers!) EDIT: I hope I don't sound rude, but that is one of the problems I see in your suggestion. Ever read "The New Jim Crow?"
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This is a good idea. Obviously, it would need categorisation - I wouldn't want a murderer treating people in a hospital, lol.
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1 AntwortenWhat? Make our prisoners (the majority of whom were non-violent offenders) actually do things and learn work stills instead of just crowding them together with other criminals who will teach them to be better criminals when they get out? You're crazy.
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1 AntwortenWas about to take thread seriously... [quote]I believe the death penalty should be removed.[/quote] *laughs and walks away*
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Good idea OP.
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1 AntwortenThis is the first time I actually agree with you.
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4 AntwortenBearbeitet von Jebediah Kerman : 5/30/2014 7:38:33 PMI retract my original statement after reading further. I jumped the gun.....sorry Also it may work, I feel people would refuse to work and then I'm not sure what you would do?
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I really like this idea. This could save a ton of money. This idea gets the JOSIAHSPARTAN stamp of approval! _______ | | | | \__/ o
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Bearbeitet von Tokyocity: 5/30/2014 10:32:31 PMThis is a solid Idea. No sarcasm
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Finally someone gets it.
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Yes let's just make the unemployment rate worse. Those people should get the death penalty
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Rehabilitation is great, but forcing people to work in a chain gang doesn't seem like such a good solution. The apprenticeship programs on the other hand, that's a definite yes.
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Bearbeitet von NaLo: 5/30/2014 8:46:09 PMThat is probably the first intelligent thing you've said on these forums. Rehabilitation works. Look at Sweden and Norway for example. +1
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Why are we not doing this already?
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The really dangerous ones could do some crap production job inside the prison
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1 AntwortenI'm ok with this for thieves and the like, but murderers belong 6 feet under.
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11 AntwortenRehabilitation is always better than punishment.
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2 AntwortenAre you interested to discuss your theory with Piers Morgan tonight?
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2 AntwortenAnd what of the people who actually need employment who will lose out?
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1 AntwortenSo what do you do with the guy who pickaxes his fellow chain gang guy? - Der
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The idea of forced labor like ye olde chain gangs or other similar ideas you proposed is a good one, beats having prisoners sitting around doing nothing but taking up space and using up tax payer dollars....[i]and[/i] if put to work while in prison serving their time, then when they get out, a lot of them will have picked up skills that could get them a job and thus far less likely to return to crime and prison. ....I disagree about the death penalty though, that should not be changed, there are some criminals that you just don't want out in society or with the chance to escape, some people just need to die for what they've done in order to keep everyone else safe.
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There are truly terrible people we shouldn't risk our lives around. With better planning and consideration it sounds like a solid idea though. But more importantly victimless crimes shouldn't be crimes. So many laws just don't make sense, and make victims of innocent people in order for the prison industry to make money.
