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1/4/2014 1:16:57 PM
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Germany really could have won WWII
80% of the 5.5 million German casualties were in the last 2.5 years of the war... of which 75% came from the Eastern front. Initially the Germans were actually doing very well against the Soviets until 1942. If they hadn't made a few strategic mistakes, were better equipped for the cold, or simply had a few hundred thousand more men they probably could have and would have won. They had superior technology, superior training, superior numbers (except against the Soviets), superior industry, and superior leadership. In the end the war was really decided at Stalingrad. Literally, if the Germans had a few more tanks, some more supplies, and a few more men they could have won the battle, and the war with it.
I just wonder what the world today would be like if they really had won.
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5 Antwortenthey [b]would[/b] have won if not for [google]the ghost army[/google], and the allied intel network's better spies.
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1 AntwortenIsn't this the basis of Wolfenstein?(Might have spelled that wrong...)
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They didn't win, and that's all that matters. Put this "what if" behind you.
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Hitler and the High Command would have just found another way to screw up. What lost Germany the war was poor decision making. Saying they could have won is like saying your kid could be a genius if he weren't so stupid.
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They had a line of tanks waiting to be sent on D-day but they did not because they could not contact the officer in charge and no one else thought to use them... Seriously if some random guy with authority would have said "You know what, we are getting our asses kicked, lets move these tanks 500 yards." the world would be drastically different.
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2 AntwortenUnfortunately they didn't.
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I love threads like this. All the pseudo-intellectuals come running here like rats to cheese.
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They would have lasted a lot longer if the Soviets hadn't been so good at defending. Adolf didn't think Soviet would be able to keep making tanks and airplanes since their factories were in the west. But the Soviet Union relocated ~80% of their factories to Siberia where they kept building planes and tanks. They didn't have that much iron though so a lot of the planes were made out of wood but the Soviets started received airplanes and other materials/materiel from the US which helped them quite a lot. And even if the Germans would had succeeded in taking over Russia they would have lost the war when the US created the bomb.
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I wanted WWIII
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Bearbeitet von BerzerkCommando: 1/4/2014 5:00:23 PMThey should have produced the jet sooner than what they did. They should have mass produced those long range bombers. They should have used gas on D-Day. Even if it didn't kill anybody it would have reduced the allies vision and retarded their movements and plans. They should have sent those tanks in on D-Day. They should have had their factories running 24/7. (You can tell a lot of this isn't my own words.)They should have put more into their nuclear project. The Manhattan Project had a larger funding and it got completed before the Germans even though they started it sooner. And their project really wasn't all that started. The other problem it faced is that it got dropped and lost focus. Withing the months of their discovery of nuclear fission it ended only months later due to the German invasion of Poland. Many of their notable physicists were drafted into the Wehrmacht. When they started it again it was facing problems. In 1942 they thought it wasn't going to to help the war effort so the Heereswaffenamt turned the program over to the Reich Research Council while continuing to fund the program. At this time, the program split up between nine major institutes where the directors dominated the research and set their own objectives. At that time, the number of scientists working on applied nuclear fission began to diminish, with many applying their talents to more pressing war-time demands. They should have stuck to less tank designs. The King Tiger had no match, but it really wasn't needed either. The Tiger could one shot anything and they could have improved it's components. Each new tank deign results in them having to tone the machines to make them which takes time. If they stuck to the Tiger and Panther they would have produced a lot more than what they did due to having more factories that would be making them.
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1 AntwortenThe Germans might have won if Japan hadn't attacked the US. Bringing the US into the war hurt all of the Axis powers, not just Germany.
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It was because the Australians stopped them in the deserts, and they attacked Russia.
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If only they had played that face down trap they had. Damn casuals.
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Lots of things in life [i]could have[/i] happened but lots of things [i]didn't happen.[/i] You can "if only" till the day you die but the fact of the matter is that Germany didn't win WWII, and that will never change. Hindsight is 20/20.
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It would be interesting to see an alternate timeline but...yeah, that's about it.
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Germany could easily have won if Hitler either hadn't gotten involved in the military side of things or had been as good a General as he was a politician.
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28 AntwortenI wonder why the US didn't assist the Germans against the Soviets.
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Didn't some general predict that they would attack Normandy but Hitler sent his troops to where they thought they'd actually attack.
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Yeah, he made 3 big mistakes that cost him the war
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Hitler pretty much killed himself with raw aggression and disreguarding his generals. Breaking peace with the Soviets was definitely the beginning of the end.
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they could have won if: -hitler pursued the retreating british forces after his victory in france -the japanese didn't pull america into the war -hitler didnt structure his military where he made every strategic decision -the italians were able to keep pace with the german military -the japanese put more pressure on the russians in siberia -the middle-east wasnt constricting his oil supplies (reason the axis invaded africa and russia) -if they developed the nuke first
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Well, it would have helped if Hitler hadn't been such an idiot.
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4 AntwortenNah, they were doomed from the start. They had the weight of America, Great Britain, Free France, Australia, the Soviets, etc, etc, on top of them. They did not have the resources to take over the world. The U.S couldn't even do that if they wanted to. Even if they came close, the United States would have nuked the hell out of them.
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Hitler was just too ignorant to use a bomb
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They lacked the raw man power to take USSR and USA. Oh, and they let some dude with weird hair get into this project named after an island on the east coast.
