Let's talk about it: [quote]Knife Reduced the maximum lunge distance by ~10% and trimmed down the targeting angle by ~20%.[/quote] So, this is PvP only? I doubt it. This is going to suck against bots. They already slip and run, everyone that knifes bots knows this. [quote]Reduced bonus damage provided by the Melee Damage stat from a maximum of 100% to a maximum of 50% against enemy Runners. Damage against non-Runner targets is unchanged. DEVELOPER NOTE: Melee in Marathon is intended to be a high-risk but potent method to contest close-quarters weapons like shotguns and submachine guns. However, the breakpoints for quick melee kills show up too early in the Melee Damage stat progression, which means additional investment into a build isn't required to get the maximum effective output. We don't want to compromise on having melee feel powerful, but believe that getting to that maximum output should be the result of meaningful buildcrafting and upgrade progression. Our goal for this change and the knife lunge changes above are that the knife remains a powerful backup tool, but requires more thoughtful play - both in and out of run - to be most effective.[/quote] This does very little. Because not many are using max melee. All you did was narrow the gap. Now you need Knife Fight upgrades too. [i]Stats Fall Resistance +20 Hardware -10 [u]Melee Damage +50[/u][/i] See that? Before all you needed was the melee node... Hard Strike.exe; whether you cut those gains in half (-10 per rank) or limited the overall efficacy by stats per their benefits (-50%), it makes no difference... AS... you didn't need max Melee stat... all you needed was Hard Strike 3 or 2. Now you need both nodes. Hard Strike AND the Knife Fight upgrades. That doesn't even include affixes, other perks... plugs, chips, etc. I actually think this adjustment will make the situation worse. @Bungie for your consideration, please and thank you 😇👍💠