Even the streamers who do solo content, contest mode, etc have started using terms like "not fun", "boring", "unfit", "annoying", "draining" etc for modifiers and feats. These people make money from their content (literally earn by playing) and if they feel like this, what does Bungie think the toll is going to be on people who "paid" to play. And people should stop comparing games to cinema ticket for value. You don't have feat, difficulty, repeat activities, matchmaking, lfg and toxic players etc issues to compare so the value per hour just doesn't compare.

“Anti fun modifiers” is exactly right. Bungie’s concept of difficulty is to massively inconvenience the player up to a point where the game is utterly unenjoyable. It’s honestly the most uninspired approach to difficulty I’ve ever seen. First of all, you need to be able to become strong. You can just delta-force-level down any progress people make. That’s not motivating at all and it defies the very logic of progress in this game. Secondly, they can’t even beat you by putting you 50 LL under bc most guardians are already used to that garbage so they literally need to slow you or otherwise incapacitate you so they can kill you. And if you don’t realise how dumb that is: Imagine you’re a basketball player and you practise for years and years until you’re really good and then someone says “Ok, the ball weighs 10 kilos from now on, you have to wear a 50-kilo backpack while playing and also people will randomly tackle you and hold you down while you’re still expected to win bc … I mean hey, you did practised, didn’t you? Skill issue??? Thirdly, forced loadouts are getting worse every season. At this point, I have almost nothing I can use. I love my arc builds, it’s kind of an arc season and I have grinded like crazy for good arc weapons with jolting feedback etc. Now, I can’t use them bc the hardest activities, where I need my optimised loadouts the most, are default avant garde. And playing lfg most of the time basically comes down to having only new stuff equipped or you won’t find a post. All this feels awful and they keep doubling down on those same awful strategies. And I’m sure they will continue to do so until the game is completely dead.

Games are definitely supposed to be fun but Destiny 2 is no longer just a game it's a second job for most of us now. Well, it's a job if you want to keep up. FOMO is still a thing in D2.

Agreed, remove the portal.

Totally agree with the OP. Just scrap the portal and let us carry on enjoying the OLD Destiny.

Don't get rid of it, but just add new activities outside of Portal. As i say, add don't replace.

The problem is Bungie is trying to disguise tactics to increase play time as “we’re giving you what you wanted”

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Just play on advanced/expert level

I actually thought vanguard alerts would be like a super patrol or public event calling guardians to a planet.. gathering us. That could be wild but also really make it feel like a LIVE game. Having seen the Portal now for a few weeks maybe a month (just got back) I think there is good and bad. I would first of all still start people in the world map screen with a bit clearer stuff of whats going on in the planets. This helps our immersion in the universe... we are now travelling around as a guardian. ...but defintely a clear button there to the portal to organize our pursuits. The portal itself.. geez... has a lot going on and so I gotta say it seems messy.. but it seems (from my limited experience) I know what I'm getting so I can chase that thing. I feel like I am clicking on things and being rewarded constantly and so that is good.. I am still new to the customization but I can't see how that is bad other than the interface again seems messy... maybe a slider bar with common settings or better yet > this THIS is the reward I want so do your calculations give me the difficulty necessary to achieve that might be better.. still new to it so not sure if its already set up that way. Not saying the following is all negative just NEWish > I have no idea what the added vanguard arsenal stuff is or where to read up on that... and sad I cant rank up vendors to get multiple perks.. strange no vendor engrams anymore.. wish you could pour materials (even a lot) to start tiering up a legacy weapon (I think they could limit this to like a few per season and people would have a brand spanking new chase.. for those of us that like collecting weapons)... I'm hoping crafting old stuff does eventually get released ("catch'up mechanic")... reroll on orders seems good.. event tab very useful (Dawning needed maybe 1 more weapon imo.. also no bounty is a plus for me as now I go about my day and bake as is convenient to me rather than hopping to individual planets for delivery service)... Overall though I see a lot to do - BUT Onslaught is way more interesting than some of these portal activities it needs to be available for matchmake at least on weekends or something...! To summarize I am not so negative about the Portal I just think the game could be organized from the viewpoint of a guardian reporting for duty.. and that could help organize several things and help with immersion (and then guide developers with that vision). So still overall very positive about the game 1 month back :)

The game have sucked for many many years actually, Destiny 2 should never been made.

I agree. I’m mainly a PvP player but dip my toe into pve . Portal is garbage🤣