[quote]Is there any loot worth getting though when it's not tier 5? And fun? If fun means staying at lower level forever, there's zero reason to have this kind of power level grind especially with the reset[/quote] Not everyone cares about tiered gear, enhanced perks or grinding to make an arbitrary number higher … a tier 2 retrograde with good perks is just as effective as a tier 5. There’s very little difference between a t2 and t5 weapons with the same perks. If you’re idea of fun is getting the best tiered loot available, you’ll either need to do the hardest content(5ft raid) or grind PL - If you’re idea of fun is just getting new things and shooting aliens with said things; you don’t need to participate in the hamster wheel -