Seriously, not one [i]single[/i] day, out of 13 days so far. I'm not saying fix the numbers or whatever.
I want some talk about maybe [i]why[/i] Warlocks are so far behind. Is it that they are too hard to play well? That they are underpowered? That almost no one plays them? That they are just less fun? It's probably a combination of things, but to just see "Warlocks, try harder and don't give up" in the last TWAB was an insult.
And not seeing Bungie even [i]acknowledge[/i] that Warlocks appear not even be playing GG really makes it look like they don't care about the Class at all. I know GG is always a s***-show, and by far-and-away the [b]worst[/b] calendar event, because having Classes that are both balanced [i]and[/i] unique is a challenge that only some companies can manage, but seriously, this year it looks like Bungie do not care about it [b]at all[/b].
And to pre-empt all the 'such-and-such the top player is a Warlock main'; that matters not at all if they either drop off the Class for GG, or if there are just so many more main on the other 2 Classes. IF a Class exists only to be a Well-bot for the other 2 (even post Well nerf), no one is gonna play it seriously.
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Warlocks have been underpowered as hell for a long time now.
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Warlock main here, and I honestly could care less about GG. It's a pointless event, and the weapons are terrible. You literally gain nothing for winning but a small little statue that everybody forgets about. It also doesn't surprise me that warlocks have 0 days so far. They feel so underpowered compared to what hunters and titans have currently. The new sentry for arc is cool and all, but it's nowhere near as effective as just sitting behind a bolt charge barricade and nuking everything. The last time warlocks really had a time to shine was when prismatic first released and everyone was using the buddies build with an ergo sum sword. Warlocks definitely need some sort of buff. Enough buddies, too, please. It's getting boring.
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10 AntwortenPeople don't play the class my guy. It has one of the most [b]BORING[/b] kits in the game (ie centered around AI DPS & Healing). It hasn't been meta since [i]Cenotaph[/i] hit [i]Lightfall[/i].
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1 AntwortenI am an 8k hour warlock main.......then last year or so Titan and Hunter mainly. Warlock is underpowered in PVE and useless in PVP against stacks of titans and hunters. We have had no real changes in years other then our stuff being given to the already broken classes further removing warlocks from even more content. Started with Solar. Why do you need a well lock when you can use healing nades. This has been a 2 class game for many years. What else do you expect from people making a game they have never played?
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2 AntwortenBearbeitet von Zodleon: 3/27/2025 6:07:58 AMHe knows the medals are there, he just needs bungie to find them. Joke aside I always wanted a active medal count, maybe automatically updated by the hour or something, the flags just aren't doing it, not precise enough and they seem to be different in each tower. I feel like that'd cause some defeationist behavior but not getting any feedback no matter how many medals you dunk kinda sucks. Anyway, GG has always been a farce at best, and any attempts to balance it basically have equated to fixing the odds. I definitely don't have a fair solution.
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4 AntwortenWarlocks were smart enough to play something else lmao
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2 AntwortenSeriously, nothing to get all bent out of shape over. We already know the event is rigged and that Hunters have won, yet again, because Bungie slipped up and announced it last week. They probably fired the only guy who knows how to change out the statue in the tower, so did the next best thing... Hunters also went from lagging behind both Titans and Warlocks (who were way ahead and neck and neck on the Friday morning, to mysteriously having more than Titans and Warlocks [u]combined[/u] by late Friday afternoon. That might have been due to the fact that it's only Hunters playing Supremacy, or it could be due to other factors; I'll leave that up to you to decide. Besides which, the engagement this year is really poor all over - if I didn't have a new account and wasn't chasing the skimmer and title, I really wouldn't have bothered. And now I have both, I won't anymore...
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1 AntwortenDidn’t read all of it just answering the title, What is there that needs to be addressed? Warlocks didn’t win boo hoo you want them to fix the rest of the days to make sure warlocks get some wins? Rep your class and keep dunking motes for your side.
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All comes down to class attitude. When Hunters aren't THE best "we're so under powered" When Titans aren't THE best "we're completely useless" When Warlocks aren't THE best "we're still pretty good"
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What exactly would they be able to do about it?
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6 AntwortenDont let it bother you. Warlocks are protection of galaxies and leave this kid stuff to hunters and titans because that's what they are good at. People will make fun of Warlock but will need Warlock when playing raids or dungeons. Players who say titans or hunters are better only have played this stuff but never touched raids or completed anything solo.
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I play all three classes. No matter what I win 😝
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Guardian games needs to be changed or the theme completely replaced since the class based competition is too lopsided nowadays like Titan is being played a lot more due to Storm's Keep, Warlock is just warlock and Hunter is very popular still but struggles with things Warlocks and Titans can do very easily. I think a choice based system with 3 "teams" Bungie comes up with might be a better solution that or utilise the different weapon foundries as the teams. Give some sort of cosmetic that represents that like a class item that glows with the logo of the team as well as an aura around your back or head when it is worn sorta like how the Faction Rallies renown system looked when you were at max stacks. Could even have it so the team you choose(should be account based to make it matter) would make it so the event weapons would drop with the GG origin trait as well as the origin traits of the foundries you selected. Atm the guardian games straight up don't matter regardless of who wins no-one will notice the tiny trophy on the tower and there isn't really anything tangible to actually win.
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Hunters rule PvP, Titans dominate PvE especially high end, Warlock are good at picking up strawberries. Make sense.
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4 AntwortenWarlocks are always addressed. Or at least they're always wearing a dress. Close enough.
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10 Antworten[quote]IF a Class exists only to be a Well-bot for the other 2 (even post Well nerf), no one is gonna play it seriously.[/quote] This. Warlocks need stuff as powerful as consecration. Or storms keep. Time to undo the starfire nerf.
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2 AntwortenI am absolutely a Warlock main and I likely could not care any less about this event. All I am doing is doing the minimum possible to get those chunks of Bright Dust and that's about it. It was a bad decision to ever pit Classes against each other instead of making it about teamwork of all three together, though Clans would have been a much better idea. Personally, I hope they vault it and have something better next year, but I doubt that will ever happen and we'll have this same discussion next year.
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Since the starfire protocol nerf, no one uses warlocks much anymore
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Its rigged, they dont care.
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Because the holiday events are pretty much pointless. Most people are only going to play to get a gun or guns with a roll they like, use said gun for a while then either delete it because it’s not as good as they thought or throw it in the vault then complain that they don’t have enough vault space because they refuse to go through and delete stuff that has been redundant and/or powercrept. Others will play because they like the cosmetics or to get the guns from the event challenges but most of the “good” cosmetics are behind eververse, that really doesn’t drive people to play the game since almost all are purchased with silver with the odd thing being bright dust and for a while the community has said that they would like to see less of the cosmetics in eververse and be earnable in game. It’s really only small minority of the community that really cares about the holiday events (grinding out bounties for bright dust, gilding the event title, trying to get several of the same gun but different rolls, etc). However people have moved on from destiny since the end of the light and darkness saga and the people that are left are more or less tearing each other apart (more on the PvP side) and that population is slowly being bled out due to a variety of factors. Well in the end that’s just my 2 cents from someone who is slowly losing interest in the game.
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Lol, Downvoted to oblivion, just like the state of warlocks atm.
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Yeah, we don't need ammo or a well for GG.
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The fact warlocks have won zero days isn't on bungie it's on the player base.
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1 AntwortenLet’s be real….hunters win hands down unless bungie rigs it. So what you’re saying is you want bungie to rig it….(even though it already is)
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1 AntwortenYes, by nerfing Geomags again